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post #7341 of 9601
When you update your bios, can you just use the latest version or do you need to do more than one update?
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Installing the latest bios is all you need to do. There are some youtube videos for ASrock boards if you want see someone update bios before you do it on your board.

Just don't pull out the flash drive until its completed. My comp rebooted then finished the bios install so wait till you get back to the desktop before removing.
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Hello, I searched all around but couldnt find a solution to my problem.

My setup:
Asrock Z68 Pro3 Gen3 + i5 2500k

It used to run just fine at 4.4ghz in stock BIOS and voltagens in auto. After I updated the BIOS to 2.30 the CPU started overheating to max temp in Prime95 Blend test (reaches 98 degrees than starts throtling down to prevent damage). I had to leave it configured to no overclock at all to keep it stable. The cooler and case hasn't changed. Only BIOS version and a VGA upgrade.


I see in Core Temp that the Vcore voltages reach around 1.41 and 1.42 and I think that's the cause of the overheat. The fact is that nothing I change in Setup makes any difference in the Vcore voltages. I tried all in AUTO and tried different Offset values for both CPU en Turbo voltage but makes no difference. The Mobo keeps sending a lot of voltage to CPU and I can't control it.
Tried to go back for old BIOS but the older available in Asrock website is 2.10 and that didn't help, nor 2.20. So flashed 2.30 again.


Anyone can give me some light on how to control and limit the Vcore voltages?

Thanks a lot!
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Hello, I searched all around but couldnt find a solution to my problem.

My setup:
Asrock Z68 Pro3 Gen3 + i5 2500k

It used to run just fine at 4.4ghz in stock BIOS and voltagens in auto. After I updated the BIOS to 2.30 the CPU started overheating to max temp in Prime95 Blend test (reaches 98 degrees than starts throtling down to prevent damage). I had to leave it configured to no overclock at all to keep it stable. The cooler and case hasn't changed. Only BIOS version and a VGA upgrade.


I see in Core Temp that the Vcore voltages reach around 1.41 and 1.42 and I think that's the cause of the overheat. The fact is that nothing I change in Setup makes any difference in the Vcore voltages. I tried all in AUTO and tried different Offset values for both CPU en Turbo voltage but makes no difference. The Mobo keeps sending a lot of voltage to CPU and I can't control it.
Tried to go back for old BIOS but the older available in Asrock website is 2.10 and that didn't help, nor 2.20. So flashed 2.30 again.


Anyone can give me some light on how to control and limit the Vcore voltages?

Thanks a lot!

Can you post some screen shots of your BIOS? It is a general rule to reset everything to default before flashing a new BIOS.
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I finally put some time into trying to overclock my 3570k beyond a basic 4.2. I have reached 4.7 on air and have run prime for an hour and then got bored and played games. I have been using it like this for a day or two with no crashes or problems. I am on air with a hyper 212 evo in a push/pull configuration. I told myself that I would stop when my temps hit 90*C and after my prime test the highest it had been was right at 90. At this point I don't know if I should back it down to like 4.5 just because I don't know if running this high will be okay in the long run. I would like the chip to last another year then I will get the urge to update. Plus if more games are going to start taking advantage of hyperthreading then I am going to move up faster.

Long story short, am I ok running with this overclock 24hrs?

I tried to hit 4.8 on the same voltage, but it crashed right away. I don't want to go up anymore on the voltage.
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I finally put some time into trying to overclock my 3570k beyond a basic 4.2. I have reached 4.7 on air and have run prime for an hour and then got bored and played games. I have been using it like this for a day or two with no crashes or problems. I am on air with a hyper 212 evo in a push/pull configuration. I told myself that I would stop when my temps hit 90*C and after my prime test the highest it had been was right at 90. At this point I don't know if I should back it down to like 4.5 just because I don't know if running this high will be okay in the long run. I would like the chip to last another year then I will get the urge to update. Plus if more games are going to start taking advantage of hyperthreading then I am going to move up faster.

Long story short, am I ok running with this overclock 24hrs?

I tried to hit 4.8 on the same voltage, but it crashed right away. I don't want to go up anymore on the voltage.

What voltage are you running at? Add +30-50mV to whatever setting you have and that should be your real voltage. I'm currently running a 3770k (including correction) @ 1.3v (1.246mv setting) - 4.5Ghz for more than 6 months now and the most I hit playing games (Like Crysis 3 and CPU intensice games) for 6+ hours is 72C (highest core temp). I also ran P95 and the highest core temp I got was 90C. The chip is fine at 70-80C, so running that at 24/7 as long as your voltage is @1.3v or lower should be good.
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My CPU voltage offset according to the ASRock extreme tuning utility is at +0.150. I'm really new to this and I find the language very confusing. It sounds like I need to turn that down by your comment. Is that true. I can't remember what it was when I was running prime 95 according to CPUID HWMonitor and CPUID. Should I find that out for you?

EDIT: I started to run Prime again and it is running at 1.32 V with the highest being 1.352 V and lowest 1.152 V according to HWMonitor. That is the CPU VCORE. Is that what I should look at? Also, according to CPU-Z it is at 1.320 V and Core Temp the VID is at 1.236 v. So many things mean the same thing as far as I can tell.
Edited by Mbalmer - 11/4/13 at 7:09pm
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My CPU voltage offset according to the ASRock extreme tuning utility is at +0.150. I'm really new to this and I find the language very confusing. It sounds like I need to turn that down by your comment. Is that true. I can't remember what it was when I was running prime 95 according to CPUID HWMonitor and CPUID. Should I find that out for you?

EDIT: I started to run Prime again and it is running at 1.32 V with the highest being 1.352 V and lowest 1.152 V according to HWMonitor. That is the CPU VCORE. Is that what I should look at? Also, according to CPU-Z it is at 1.320 V and Core Temp the VID is at 1.236 v. So many things mean the same thing as far as I can tell.

Woah, don't overclock using software, it is much safer to OC through the BIOS. have you followed the guide from page 1 to the letter? I suggest going through it step by step since it's pretty much straightforward and it does come with definitions so it removes confusion.

To try and answer some of your questions, and to help resolve some confusion I suggest you use HWinfo since it has everything you need in terms of what to look out for. I'm assuming your OCing using the OFFSET, ok? What you want to look at HWinfo is the Core#0 VID, #1 VID, #2 VID, and #3 VID. this gives you the exact voltage that is running per each core. when the CPU is not being stressed you should see a 0.9++ (more or less) voltage in there for all 4 cores. watch the same one to see where each core voltage sits at when your stressing it and that should be what your voltage is (+30-50mV correction). so if you're saying that you see 1.352 and you add the 30~50mv, your actual Vcore should be between 1.382-1.402v. I personally think that's a little to high to be running 24/7.

Do the test after following the guide step by step from page 1 using the BIOS to OC and not the extreme tuner and then report back here.
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The only thing I see in HWMonitor that has Core# 0, Core# 1, Core # 2, Core # 3 shows temperature and not voltage. The voltage under 3570k reads 1.236 with a max of 1.246.

The readings I gave before were listed under the ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 tab.

EDIT: I did overclock in the BIOS and followed the instructions until I got to 4.5. At that point I just used the software to see how high I could go and then I was going to go back in the BIOS and put my findings in there. I think at this point I am going to just lower back to the 4.5 and be happy with that.
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The only thing I see in HWMonitor that has Core# 0, Core# 1, Core # 2, Core # 3 shows temperature and not voltage. The voltage under 3570k reads 1.236 with a max of 1.246.

The readings I gave before were listed under the ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 tab.

EDIT: I did overclock in the BIOS and followed the instructions until I got to 4.5. At that point I just used the software to see how high I could go and then I was going to go back in the BIOS and put my findings in there. I think at this point I am going to just lower back to the 4.5 and be happy with that.

Cool it's better to be safe and seriously running at 4.5Ghz is pretty good and it won't bottleneck any single or dual GPU cards out there (yet). As for the voltage not being reported in HWinfo, I believe it's the limitation of the Extreme 4 sensors on the board.
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