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Just to ease your mind, that is pretty normal. I think one of mine sits 8-10 higher most of the time, and I am running direct die with a custom water loop. Its just about par for the course to have a 5-10C split in temps.

Thanks for the info, it had me kinda worried with that single core, but I still feel pretty good as this is my first OC ever. and it passed the final at an avg temp of 79.4 on the hottest core.
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Thanks for the info, it had me kinda worried with that single core, but I still feel pretty good as this is my first OC ever. and it passed the final at an avg temp of 79.4 on the hottest core.

Your OS rarely sits idle and the core it chose to utilize is the one seeing the most activity.
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Trying to get my new 3770k stable under water @ 4.8ghz seems to be a bit of a dud got whea errors last night @ 1.4 vcore

im using +0.160 offset +0.008 turbo boost and LLC level 2. The guide says you can lower or raise PLL voltage how do I know which one it is, raise or lower.

What is your idle vcore? You should be increasing Additional turbo voltage to stabilize your full load vcore, not offset
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What is your idle vcore? You should be increasing Additional turbo voltage to stabilize your full load vcore, not offset

Don't you use offset to give the chip more power? It still only uses that power when it is under load anyway from what i've seen in cpu-z

idle is around 1.040

I have 0.008 extra turbo
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What is your idle vcore? You should be increasing Additional turbo voltage to stabilize your full load vcore, not offset

Don't you use offset to give the chip more power? It still only uses that power when it is under load anyway from what i've seen in cpu-z

idle is around 1.040

I have 0.008 extra turbo

No, Lucky is right. think of a line graph that has multiplier along the bottom, and voltage on the side. Your voltage requirements will be a curved line. offset moves that whole voltage curve up and down, adding turbo changes the shape of the curve on the high multiplier side. Most all chips idle than 1.000, so you can take Lucky23's suggestion to remove the offset and add it back in turbo. It will allow your chip to sip less power at idle, and will keep your loaded vcore the same. Heck, there are allot of chips that end up with negative offset because the VID table set by intel is just crap.
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I am at my wits end here just trying to get to 4.5 stable. This issue is driving me nuts so hopefully someone can help me out.

All of my BIOS settings are correct according to page 1, and I am able to get a fully stable O/C of 4.4ghz with +0.004 turbo and +0.005 offset with my LLC at Level 2. Tested running p95 for like 14 hours with zero issues. Average temps are like mid 60's with my H100i in pushpull out the top of my air 540

The minute I try to start bumping stuff up from there is where I have major issues, i'm able to get 4.5 to boot to windows with a +0.047 turbo and +0.005 offset but my vcore is sitting at 1.328 max according to HWmonitor and my temp hops up to the mid 80's! This is f**king insane! It runs p95 for a few minutes and then BSOD's with various errors. I've tried lowering my LLC to 3-4 to get some lower voltage and temps as well as moving my offset to -.005 but as soon as I do that it doesn't even want to boot to windows anymore.

I am so frustrated i'm just about to sit at 4.4, but 4.5 was my original goal for my daily use and I feel like i'm close but there must be some stupid thing i'm missing. mad.gif
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No, Lucky is right. think of a line graph that has multiplier along the bottom, and voltage on the side. Your voltage requirements will be a curved line. offset moves that whole voltage curve up and down, adding turbo changes the shape of the curve on the high multiplier side. Most all chips idle than 1.000, so you can take Lucky23's suggestion to remove the offset and add it back in turbo. It will allow your chip to sip less power at idle, and will keep your loaded vcore the same. Heck, there are allot of chips that end up with negative offset because the VID table set by intel is just crap.

Yup I did take his advice and it does idle lower. Now I have to figure out just how much offset I need to get 4.8 stable for daily use. it is something over 0.0150 though which I don't know if that is good or bad for a 3770k or not.

I'm hitting about 80c in intel burn test with my water loop at 1.400 vcore but I'm gonna need more vcore I think since I had even more than +0.0150 in offset mode and ended up with whea errors.

I don't want to hit over 85c so I might just have to shoot for a 4.7ghz this chip is kind of a dud I think honestly, I wanted to push 5ghz with my new water cooling loop oh well 300mhz isn't alot.

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yup whea @ 0.145 turbo voltage w/ +0.005 offset llc level 2

trying +0.0164 now.
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I am at my wits end here just trying to get to 4.5 stable. This issue is driving me nuts so hopefully someone can help me out.

All of my BIOS settings are correct according to page 1, and I am able to get a fully stable O/C of 4.4ghz with +0.004 turbo and +0.005 offset with my LLC at Level 2. Tested running p95 for like 14 hours with zero issues. Average temps are like mid 60's with my H100i in pushpull out the top of my air 540

The minute I try to start bumping stuff up from there is where I have major issues, i'm able to get 4.5 to boot to windows with a +0.047 turbo and +0.005 offset but my vcore is sitting at 1.328 max according to HWmonitor and my temp hops up to the mid 80's! This is f**king insane! It runs p95 for a few minutes and then BSOD's with various errors. I've tried lowering my LLC to 3-4 to get some lower voltage and temps as well as moving my offset to -.005 but as soon as I do that it doesn't even want to boot to windows anymore.

I am so frustrated i'm just about to sit at 4.4, but 4.5 was my original goal for my daily use and I feel like i'm close but there must be some stupid thing i'm missing. mad.gif


Hey you have the same board as me and the same chip (upgraded to a 3770k now but used 3570k forever)

if your chip does 4.4 stable with only +0.004 and +0.005 that is really nice mine took +0.025 and +0.004 turbo to be stable @ 4.4

Have you delid that chip and used liquid ultra? It drops the temp by like 10-20c

I also experienced the same thing as you with 4.5 requiring much more voltage, but I only had a 212 evo at the time and it was not delidded, so I had to stop since temps were horrible
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if your chip does 4.4 stable with only +0.004 and +0.005 that is really nice mine took +0.025 and +0.004 turbo to be stable @ 4.4

Have you delid that chip and used liquid ultra? It drops the temp by like 10-20c

I also experienced the same thing as you with 4.5 requiring much more voltage, but I only had a 212 evo at the time and it was not delidded, so I had to stop since temps were horrible

Yea I was so stoked that I got so far on the "green overclocking" section, but now that i'm hitting this wall it is really starting to make me mad.

I've considered delidding, but i'm not at a point where replacing my chip is feasible so I figure i'll wait till I have money for a replacement in case I mess things up. I would like to eventually!

It's bugging the heck out of me why it's taking so much more Vcore just to boot only 100mhz higher...could a chip be this defective?
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Yea I was so stoked that I got so far on the "green overclocking" section, but now that i'm hitting this wall it is really starting to make me mad.

I've considered delidding, but i'm not at a point where replacing my chip is feasible so I figure i'll wait till I have money for a replacement in case I mess things up. I would like to eventually!

It's bugging the heck out of me why it's taking so much more Vcore just to boot only 100mhz higher...could a chip be this defective?

no like I said and am probably experiencing now with my new 3770k each extra 100mhz CAN require a ton more vcore, it is not linear at all.

I have never had any stable OC yet on this chip so I just started with 4.8 but i don't like how high the vcore/temps are going to I might go down to 4.7.

as far as delidding I actually paid a guy on ebay to do mine (he has done 100's of them and has amazing feedback)

he charges 25.00$ and will put on liquid ultra or another high quality TIM for you. When you consider a tube of liquid ultra costs 13.00$ this is a pretty good deal.

So for shipping with insurance <10$ and 25.00$ he will delid for you. He just did my 3570k and got it back to me asap and it is much much cooler running now.
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