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you're just butt hurt because you can't stand other people having other opinions that disagree with you. i clearly said there's nothing wrong with it, but you insist on rebutting. if you have nothing constructive to say, don't reply back to my post at all. at this point we all know you're a HUGE fan of undervolting, so be it. have a cookie, but don't hate on others who have opinion different from yours. just because you have 2 year experience and worked in your case, doesn't mean it works for everyone else. coming from 15 years of experience, i am simply stating my experience. i will simply stand by my "opinion", that having slightly higher voltage will give you more headroom to play with.

I'm not butt hurt. Lets not loose sight of the issue here. I'm arguing with you because you decided to write a paragraph rant post about me and your argument was not even correct. Not to mention my post was not even directed at you. It was directed toward helping another forum member and it was a completely valid point.

1. I reposted about negative offset because you do not have any valid points on why you should not use negative offset aside from it being bad because that's what you read.

2. Now your just changing your story. Adding an additional +0.004 or +0.008mv to your stable full load vcore as a buffer is completely different from having your vcore match your VID rolleyes.gif

3. When did i say i have 2 years experience? I said THIS cpu has been overclocked for 2 years. It has nothing to do with how long i have been overclocking.

If you don't want to be argued with then maybe you shouldn't call out other forum member for no reason

how often can someone say "the easy solution is just to ignore the problem" and have it be good advice?


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What is you idle vcore in CPU-Z with the +0.040 offset? Unless your not able to boot into windows, you usually want to keep your offset low to maintain a low idle vcore then increase additional turbo voltage to stabilize your full load.

FYI you can take screen shots of your bios by formatting a flash drive in FAT32, rebooting into bios, and pressing F12. You will have clearer screen shots then using a camera. biggrin.gif

Sorry for the late reply.

I had to actually bump the offset up to +0.045 because it started crashing to the blue screen with error x0124.

My idle core at 1600 MHz is 1.024 V.

And thanks for that advice with taking screenshots in bios. I was wondering how you guys did that.

I also got a question regarding OC'ing your GPU. Is it practical? Are the gains significant?

Edit: Added my rig to my signature. I feel so cool now... o_o
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Sorry for the late reply.

I had to actually bump the offset up to +0.045 because it started crashing to the blue screen with error x0124.

My idle core at 1600 MHz is 1.024 V.

And thanks for that advice with taking screenshots in bios. I was wondering how you guys did that.

I also got a question regarding OC'ing your GPU. Is it practical? Are the gains significant?

Edit: Added my rig to my signature. I feel so cool now... o_o

it depends on what GPU. some model of GPU scale better with more Cuda/Stream processor count, while others scale really well with core speed and memory speed. the only way to find out is to try smile.gif

to give you an example, my HD7950 comes stock at 725core and 1250mhz memory. lets use an arbitrary benchmark like Shanghai map in Battlefield 4. at stock speeds, i get 42fps at the spawn point at 2550x1440 ultra setting, but at 1200mhz core and 1600mhz memory i get 62fps. the strange thing is, those southern island GPU scale really well once the memory go beyond 1400mhz.

but that's just one example, i've had GPU in the past that didn't get much improvement with overclock.

also if you haven't already, download MSI Afterburner, make sure the GPU usage logging is enabled. launch a game, prefereably a game that you typically struggle like less than 40fps. play for a min or two, quit the game and watch the GPU ussage logging. if the GPU usage is at a constant 100% when you game that means you've pretty much maxed out your GPU power. hence there's more room to overclock "if your GPU and temperature can handle it". conversely, if the GPU is just hovering at 80% or less or really low, look at your CPU usage history, and if your CPU usage history is at max 100% while you game, that means your CPU is bottlnecking you, and it's not feeding the GPU data fast enough, hence more room for CPU overclock "if your CPU and temperature can handle it". your CPU feeds GPU data so it can render scenes in your game. if either one of those two is maxing out at constant 100% it's a bottleneck.

in an ideal situation, you would want to have a game running with both GPU and CPU running less than 100% and the game be 60+FPS. that way you know it's not your hardware that's limiting you, but rather you've reached the limit of the game engine or driver.
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What is you idle vcore in CPU-Z with the +0.040 offset? Unless your not able to boot into windows, you usually want to keep your offset low to maintain a low idle vcore then increase additional turbo voltage to stabilize your full load.

FYI you can take screen shots of your bios by formatting a flash drive in FAT32, rebooting into bios, and pressing F12. You will have clearer screen shots then using a camera. biggrin.gif

Sorry for the late reply.

I had to actually bump the offset up to +0.045 because it started crashing to the blue screen with error x0124.

My idle core at 1600 MHz is 1.024 V.

And thanks for that advice with taking screenshots in bios. I was wondering how you guys did that.

I also got a question regarding OC'ing your GPU. Is it practical? Are the gains significant?

Edit: Added my rig to my signature. I feel so cool now... o_o

Here is a page full of nice colorful charts that include several graphics cards, but most importantly, a 670 at stock speeds, a 670 SuperClocked, and a 670 with a manual overclock. ANANDTECH LINK

It really depends on your current gaming experience as to the benefit of overclocking a GPU, if you have a monitor that has a 60hz refresh rate, and you play with v-snyc enable without ever dropping below 60...you could overclock to the moon and never tell the difference. But if you are struggling around 25 fps in a game, then overclocking might push you into the 30 range, which for myself I consider the bare minimum to be playable. I say this is overclock.net, put it underwater and OVERCLOCK IT!
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Sorry for the late reply.

I had to actually bump the offset up to +0.045 because it started crashing to the blue screen with error x0124.

My idle core at 1600 MHz is 1.024 V.

And thanks for that advice with taking screenshots in bios. I was wondering how you guys did that.

I also got a question regarding OC'ing your GPU. Is it practical? Are the gains significant?

Edit: Added my rig to my signature. I feel so cool now... o_o

Ok that's fine I just wanted to make sure that you couldn't boot with a lower offset.

Definitely OC your GPU. There should be a thread dedicated to your GPU if you need help.
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So I've had an overclock for a while now but it was an auto overclock mostly, i had my 3570k to 4.4 ghz in my asrock extreme 3 Z77 and today i decided to go back and do my overclock the proper way. When trying to use the offset method my computer constantly BSOD'd on the windows boot. After attempting it in fixed mode i realized that if i changed my C state option from auto to anything else i would BSOD. Right now I'm working my way up the multiplier with a fixed voltage of 1.1 with a turbo of 0.004. If i could get any insight into my C state boot issue that'd be great, but otherwise ill update on my final settings, temps, and performance. Great tutorial by the way, it definitely made the bios make a lot more sense thumb.gif
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So I've had an overclock for a while now but it was an auto overclock mostly, i had my 3570k to 4.4 ghz in my asrock extreme 3 Z77 and today i decided to go back and do my overclock the proper way. When trying to use the offset method my computer constantly BSOD'd on the windows boot. After attempting it in fixed mode i realized that if i changed my C state option from auto to anything else i would BSOD. Right now I'm working my way up the multiplier with a fixed voltage of 1.1 with a turbo of 0.004. If i could get any insight into my C state boot issue that'd be great, but otherwise ill update on my final settings, temps, and performance. Great tutorial by the way, it definitely made the bios make a lot more sense thumb.gif

What offset did you have set that caused the BSOD? Turbo will not work when using fixed voltage. It only works when using offset voltage.

Can you post screen shots of you bios settings so that we can take a look at them?
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Hey guys,

just spent a couple of hours on overclocking my 2500k with my Extreme 3 Gen 3 mobo. It's at 4.5 GHz now and I think it's stable. I had one quick question though - Should I have increased the Offset at all? I just did exactly what the guide told me to do and increased the Turbo Boost Voltage and left the offset at +0.005v.

EDIT: Might be worth mentioning that PrimeTest only found an error once. All the other times I just got a BSOD, could that be because of the high Turbo voltage?
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What offset did you have set that caused the BSOD? Turbo will not work when using fixed voltage. It only works when using offset voltage.

Can you post screen shots of you bios settings so that we can take a look at them?

Screen Shots of current overclock (stable after 12 hours of prime)



When trying to use the offset method I started at +0.005v and kept adding turbo voltage but to no avail. Im also realizing now that my memory wasnt set to the proper XMP profile and thats giving me problems now. Might be better off to start over at least i have my settings saved now.

EDIT: went back and tried to get offset to work, i think my ram voltage was causing me to crash, after setting XMP profile on my Gskill trident (2400 mhz) the voltage was staying at 1.515v and not adjusting to 1.65 like the trident ram needs. Right now im redoing my overclock with offset voltage instead of fixed and im running prime so I think i found my BSOD culprit in the ram voltage. However im still using auto for my C state i guess ill see if i get a problem
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