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As an owner of a the Beats Pro(flagship model) and previous owner of AD700s/Shure/Shenn/M50s, I would say build quality is par to none, while sound quality can be compared to as excellent on Hiphop/RB tracks. In regards to overall sound quality when paired with an external AMP/DAC, great. However, IMO these headphones are overpriced ~$50-100, at a retail price tag. I would only purchase the Beats Pro, as other models dont have the value attached, and only at a reduced/used market.
 
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Beats are amazing.. as a status item, in terms of functionality? buy a pair of 25 dollar headphones, they will get better sound quality!

Beats are no more than a status symbol, just like any other Monster equipment.
    
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Beats are amazing.. as a status item, in terms of functionality? buy a pair of 25 dollar headphones, they will get better sound quality!

Beats are no more than a status symbol, just like any other Monster equipment.

This exactly. Every Beats headphone that they make there is something far better in the same price range. I highly recommend Grado headphones howeever for music production, I've heard that KRK makes some decent headphones. Read the reviews though as I have never heard KRK's. thumb.gif
   
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This exactly. Every Beats headphone that they make there is something far better in the same price range. I highly recommend Grado headphones howeever for music production, I've heard that KRK makes some decent headphones. Read the reviews though as I have never heard KRK's. thumb.gif

Grados for music production? Hrm. That's an interesting idea but the highs and mids of the Grado is quite a bit more prominent compared to the highs and mids in a neutral, monitoring headphone.
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I'm not saying you can't have accurate sound at 40mm, the problem is when you want a balance of highs and lows. The ultrasones are good but they're less bassy than most Sennheisers with 50mm drivers and I think those are low as it is. You just can't get real bass without larger drivers which is why satellite speakers without a sub need to be well over 3" for the mid cone or else you're losing a large portion of the spectrum if not just a much weaker lower end. Same goes for a sub. You can't get real 5-20hz if it's 10". For that you're going to need approx. 18" or larger. The ultrasones are for people who want accuracy in the highs without the risk of bass mixing up the smooth tones. The Beats have high bass but a 40mm driver which means for the bass to sound boomy, it also makes it sound 'farty' because the small drivers have a harder time going lower. Couple that with a closed design and that's why they sound strong and loud at the bottom end. Strong but not exactly my idea of quality. You'd need larger drivers to improve upon it. There are many neat tricks to make the sounds sound better but in the end, physics wins over.

I get the feeling you've never heard an Ultrasone before.
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the treble wasn't so bad, but the bass was practically nonexistant =\
here's the latest song I've been working on, http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/465733
It's collab with ActionHobo, who's around this forum at times

I wouldn't mind more samples. This is actually some pretty good stuff. smile.gif
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I will never spend more than 25 bucks on non surround sound+mic headphones.
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This exactly. Every Beats headphone that they make there is something far better in the same price range. I highly recommend Grado headphones howeever for music production, I've heard that KRK makes some decent headphones. Read the reviews though as I have never heard KRK's. thumb.gif

Grados for music production? Hrm. That's an interesting idea but the highs and mids of the Grado is quite a bit more prominent compared to the highs and mids in a neutral, monitoring headphone.
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I'm not saying you can't have accurate sound at 40mm, the problem is when you want a balance of highs and lows. The ultrasones are good but they're less bassy than most Sennheisers with 50mm drivers and I think those are low as it is. You just can't get real bass without larger drivers which is why satellite speakers without a sub need to be well over 3" for the mid cone or else you're losing a large portion of the spectrum if not just a much weaker lower end. Same goes for a sub. You can't get real 5-20hz if it's 10". For that you're going to need approx. 18" or larger. The ultrasones are for people who want accuracy in the highs without the risk of bass mixing up the smooth tones. The Beats have high bass but a 40mm driver which means for the bass to sound boomy, it also makes it sound 'farty' because the small drivers have a harder time going lower. Couple that with a closed design and that's why they sound strong and loud at the bottom end. Strong but not exactly my idea of quality. You'd need larger drivers to improve upon it. There are many neat tricks to make the sounds sound better but in the end, physics wins over.

I get the feeling you've never heard an Ultrasone before.
Oh right, I didn't mention.
Listening: Grado's
Mixing: KRK's.

Although I find it extremely hard to recommend headphones for mixing. Now I think of it, I have used some KRK's before but I can't comment on the sound quality as I was concentrating on the sound of the Synthesizers. AKG's studio headphones are excellent IMO too. thumb.gif
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I will never spend more than 25 bucks on non surround sound+mic headphones.
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I will never spend more than 25 bucks on non surround sound+mic headphones.
You're missing out. redface.gif
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This exactly. Every Beats headphone that they make there is something far better in the same price range. I highly recommend Grado headphones howeever for music production, I've heard that KRK makes some decent headphones. Read the reviews though as I have never heard KRK's. thumb.gif

Grados for music production? Hrm. That's an interesting idea but the highs and mids of the Grado is quite a bit more prominent compared to the highs and mids in a neutral, monitoring headphone.
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I'm not saying you can't have accurate sound at 40mm, the problem is when you want a balance of highs and lows. The ultrasones are good but they're less bassy than most Sennheisers with 50mm drivers and I think those are low as it is. You just can't get real bass without larger drivers which is why satellite speakers without a sub need to be well over 3" for the mid cone or else you're losing a large portion of the spectrum if not just a much weaker lower end. Same goes for a sub. You can't get real 5-20hz if it's 10". For that you're going to need approx. 18" or larger. The ultrasones are for people who want accuracy in the highs without the risk of bass mixing up the smooth tones. The Beats have high bass but a 40mm driver which means for the bass to sound boomy, it also makes it sound 'farty' because the small drivers have a harder time going lower. Couple that with a closed design and that's why they sound strong and loud at the bottom end. Strong but not exactly my idea of quality. You'd need larger drivers to improve upon it. There are many neat tricks to make the sounds sound better but in the end, physics wins over.

I get the feeling you've never heard an Ultrasone before.
Oh right, I didn't mention.
Listening: Grado's
Mixing: KRK's.

Although I find it extremely hard to recommend headphones for mixing. Now I think of it, I have used some KRK's before but I can't comment on the sound quality as I was concentrating on the sound of the Synthesizers. AKG's studio headphones are excellent IMO too. thumb.gif
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I will never spend more than 25 bucks on non surround sound+mic headphones.
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Ha, I guess I failed at reading your post. Run-on sentences definitely mess up my reading sometimes tongue.gif
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I will never spend more than 25 bucks on non surround sound+mic headphones.
You're missing out. redface.gif

Got a set of megalodons, can switch them between 7.1 and 2.1. Better audio then anything I've heard.
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Got a set of megalodons, can switch them between 7.1 and 2.1. Better audio then anything I've heard.

Wait, you think Megalodons are good? rolleyes.gif

Those razer headsets fall right into the same category as Beats do except Razer headsets are geared towards "gamers". In fact, I would actually buy a pair of Beats Solo before I buy a pair of Razer Megalodons.
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