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Check my several FAQs on RAID.

Here is some good information also:
http://www.acnc.com/raid.html

In short, the most common types of RAID are:
  • RAID0: data is 'striped' or distributed over two disks; improves performance dramatically since two disks work together. Minimum of two hard drives; storage space will be sum of the two drives (e.g. two 250GB drivers result in 500GB)
  • RAID1: data is mirrored on two drivers. Secure data, since you always have a copy. bit lower performance than a single drive, but not much. Minimum of two hard drivers; storage space will be the same as one of the two drives (e.g. two 250GB drivers result in 250GB; you 'loose' half the storage because of the copy)
  • RAID5: data is 'striped' over several hard drives, and a 'parity stripe' is created containing a copy of all information. Secure data, since you always have a copy; hard to retrieve though. Read performance is good, write performance generally bad, unless you have a true hardware RAID controller. Minimum of three hard drivers; storage space will be the same as the total number of drives minus one. (e.g. three 250GB drivers result in 500GB; you 'loose' 250GB because of the copy)
  • RAID0+1: a combination of RAID0 (performance) and RAID1 (security). Effectively two RAID0 arrays in a RAID1 array. Minimum of four hard drives; storage space will be half that of the total disks (e.g. four 250GB drivers result in 500GB). Better performance than RAID5, but more expensive.
  • RAID10: also a combination, but now two RAID1 arrays in a RAID 0 array. Minimum of four hard drives; storage space will be half that of the total disks (e.g. four 250GB drivers result in 500GB). Performance as RAID0+1; not very common.

For a performance gaming rid, RAID0 is the most common choice. If data security is essential, choose RAID1 (or make a RAID0 array, and a separate third drive that you use for regular back ups)
    
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Originally Posted by cgrado
just saying you didn't put a recommendation on teh hard drives... however i did forget an optical drive.
My bad, I thought you were referring to something else.

The reason why I don't recommend anything else besides MoBo, CPU, RAM and Power Supply is because I concentrate on the "key" elements of a good system and successful overclocking experience.

For the rest? I don't have a preference in anything else, but I'll tell you that I will never buy a Raptor HDD due to the high price/low storage and if the person wants a Raptor, let him have it. All I know is that a 16MB cache 7200rpm will be just as good but less expensive and will have a heck of a lot more storage area.

Same goes for Optical drives, I only use Pioneer, yet almost no one here uses them, I hear mainly Nec, Plextor, Sony and LiteOn which are not my cup of tea but will work just as good as my Pioneer, though I think Pioneer are the best.


dannyyboii;
I only use RAID 0 and leave the rest of the other drives for storage, but if you want o use RAID 0+1, it'll be too expensive for your budget, just use a RAID-0 and this hard drive here is what I use for my RAID 0 : Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3250620AS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive. I've been using them for 4 weeks now and ZERO problems, they're great and fast.
post #23 of 146
Thread Starter 
So Far...it will be this..

CPU: Either Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 Conroe for $525.00 or Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe for $319.99 depending on final $$ amount
MOBO: ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP Intel 975X for $269.99
RAM: Probably this, unless anyone else have any other suggestions. G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 800 $269.00

Damn the RAM is just as much as MOBO.. lol

The motherboard says it has wireless...meaning I can simply use wireless intergrated with the motherboard without those USB/PCI/etc? Man..if so, this is a cool mobo.

About the DVD±R/W drives, do you guys know where I can find the ones without the tray? It's the kind they have for cars but I've seen it on a computer on my friend's computer. The kind that you slide the DVD in. Anyone know where i can get this, if they exist now or whatever?

Raid, to put it in simply terms, is it complicated to set up?
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post #24 of 146
Yeah, that motherboard has indeed wireless capabilities without needing an additional card.

Regarding DVD burner: Here is one...but $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827131352

Also, if dual graphics is not in your future, take a look at the wifi version of the P5B Deluxe. It's also a very good overclocker, and saves you some money: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131028
    
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For now, I'm going with dual. I guess I'll go with Crossfire. Which video cards should I use?

Chozart and everyone else, regarding the case, are there anymore out there you can recommend? I would like to take a look but I'm nto sure about the capabilties. I'm mainly looking for one that is black [to match monitor] and is transparent with LED lights to some degree. I just think that looks cool.
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post #26 of 146
Ok, the P5W DH is your board then.

I'd try to keep the Crossfire as cheap as possible, while still maintaining good performance.
GIGABYTE GV-RC19T512B-RH Radeon X1900 CrossFire Edition 512MB GDDR3 $349.99
SAPPHIRE 100149L Radeon X1900XT 512MB GDDR3 $297.99

Given DX10 in the near future, I would not spend more on the video cards right now. You might seriously consider a single X1900XT for now and wait for DX10. Your choice though.

Check out this Antec beast...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129021 Brand new case
Check here: see the lights in action: http://www.overclock.net/computer-ca...ighlight=antec

EDIT: it's a lot cheaper here: http://www.excaliberpc.com/Antec_Gam...id-569586.html
    
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This case brings something to my mind. A lot of cases actually have a lot of "holes" or "openings" to enhance airflow throughout the rig. But, wouldn't that be an opportunity for dust to invade like crazy?
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Knowing Antec, it will have dust filters.

Also, the best way to set up the fans is to have a slight over pressure (more intake than exhaust air flow). That way dust stays out also.
    
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Are there any rumors or approximations on how much the DX10 cards will be? So we can compare..
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I expect them to come out in a series like current cards..... probably the high-end ones first... then the mid-range and low-end cards later.

Do keep in mind that you won't be able to play DX10 games with ANY current card on the market. When games come out that support DX10 only, you simly cannot play them, whatever cards you buy now.

That's why I suggest a cheaper solution for now
    
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