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It will be a while before we see DX10 !!
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post #32 of 146
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Then if you must, please recommend the Single video card. It was the X1900X? And the mobo ..meaning I should switch it or should I keep?
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post #33 of 146
I'd say a year.

Vista (with DX10) still due in January, although MS already said they won't ship until ready, so it might be later. Then about a few months for the first DX10 cards to show up...let's say April. First DX10 games at the same time, but those will likely support DX9 also. And after that, I'd expect to see DX10-only games in summer 2007.

Just my guesses of course! Correct me if it seems wrong.


Do get the P5W DH deluxe. IT's a great board, and you can always go Crossfire in the future.
And do get the X1900XT, as a single card. If you need more performance and don't want to wait, just add the Crossfire Edition later. No big deal. I think the single card is enough (Yes, I do have Crossfire myself, but I have been running it for a while now, so for me the 'wait period' was longer....)
    
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Thanks a lot Chozart.. Rep+ for you.

A general question, what is the limit I can get an E6600 or E6700 OC'd up to?

How do you OC video cards? I'm not asking for am explanation now...but just bearing a question a mind which I will need to ask after I actually build it.
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post #35 of 146
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Is this the one you're talking about? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102672

Crap...double posted, don't know how to delete. Please don't mind me.
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post #36 of 146
Limit depends on many factors, including cooling.

I'd say a reasonable limit on air cooling is 3.5GHz, and on water possibly 4.0GHz. These are general estimates, and can vary per CPU/Motherboard. The ASUS P5W DH should definately be up for the task! Personally, I see no true reason to pick the E6700 over the E6600....

For ATI video cards, there is a tool called ATITool. It's fairly easy to use. Just ask back when it's time to start
    
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post #37 of 146
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Wouldn't the E6700 be able to OC higher than the E6600? Theoretically?
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post #38 of 146
not necessarily. I'd say in this case, the E6700 might hit higher clock speeds, but then we're in the 4.0GHz range, and phase change cooling becomes a must. If you plan on air or watercooling, the E6600 should give you more than enough headroom.

Of course, this is my opinion.

Here are a few results. 3.8 GHz on the E6600 on water sounds good. sdumper has 4.2GHz on his E6700 now, but that's on phase.
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...clock+database

A higher multiplier does not mean a higher overclock per se. Many Core 2 Duo users actually reduce the multi to achieve an higher FSB.
    
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post #39 of 146
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Alright, I'd go with the E6600 then.

Should I stay with the PC Power & Cooling 610W you recommended or a different now?

Which specific X1900X should it be?

So far...

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe
ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP Intel 975X
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 800
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

::EDIT:: what about the Antec P180? I see that this is a pretty popular case.
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post #40 of 146
Since you save money on the CPU, and given that you will go dual graphics in the future, I'd get the heavier brother (750W, 60A on 12V rail) of that CPU for $199.
Alternatively, the OCZ GameXStream 700W is also very good for $154.99. I have the FSP Epsilon 700W, which is identical, and it powers my rig (crossfire X1900's, E6600, dual hdd, etc) very well.


And this Sapphire card I linked earlier for $297 is a good one. It will serve you very well.
    
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