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Originally Posted by DevilDriver View Post

It def seems to be a product in testing. Primochill sent it to me in response to my contacting them about my tubing clouding up.
I can not find any info about it doing a google search and they don't list it on there website. The bottle I received on 7-13-2012 had a manufacture date of 7-10-2012 printed on it.
I'm not sure what it is as the bottle doesn't say and the email I received just stated they were doing some testing, that the issue is not the tubing but another component in the system, and they would be willing to send me an additive to put in my loop to try and clean the tubing.

It's nice to know their actually doing something about it, they could improve their communication skills a little bit after all of the angry customer's responses towards Primochill. If your results are typical we could see a fix shortly.
post #1062 of 3087
So, Primochill says, not for the first time, it isn't the tubing. The manufacturer of any additive in the loop says, it's not the additive. The block manufacturer says it's not the block. The company that provides the distilled water says it's not the water.

So, what is it then? Oh, it must be our imaginations! I mean, these companies wouldn't lie to us just to make more money would they? Only if we are naive enough to believe their hype.

Hmm.... It appears we are.
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Well I spoke too soon. I just found the fittings in 7/16 by 5/8. Should I go with the 3/8 by 5/8 anyhow?

I prefer thicker tubing, less potential for issues. The flow difference between 7/16 ID and 3/8 ID is roughly 0.1 gpm, and cpu temp difference is 0.1C. Per cathars testing here.
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So, Primochill says, not for the first time, it isn't the tubing. The manufacturer of any additive in the loop says, it's not the additive. The block manufacturer says it's not the block. The company that provides the distilled water says it's not the water.

So, what is it then? Oh, it must be our imaginations! I mean, these companies wouldn't lie to us just to make more money would they? Only if we are naive enough to believe their hype.

Hmm.... It appears we are.

Let say the rads have something in them that is reacting with the tubing. You can look at it 2 ways.

1. It's the maker of the rad fault, because the tubing never had a problem until they started using brand X to flush the rads with.
2. It's the tubing's fault, because it can't handle what the rads are being flushed with.

Like I said earlier, something has changed in the loops, we don't know what it is, but at least they are trying to correct it. Maybe this is a quick fix and they are working on a new tubing as we speak or have gone back to their old tubing.
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Let say the rads have something in them that is reacting with the tubing. You can look at it 2 ways.
1. It's the maker of the rad fault, because the tubing never had a problem until they started using brand X to flush the rads with.
2. It's the tubing's fault, because it can't handle what the rads are being flushed with.
Like I said earlier, something has changed in the loops, we don't know what it is, but at least they are trying to correct it. Maybe this is a quick fix and they are working on a new tubing as we speak or have gone back to their old tubing.

Just wondering, even after you clean the tubings, will the plasticizer problem still continue to happen?
post #1066 of 3087
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Let say the rads have something in them that is reacting with the tubing. You can look at it 2 ways.
1. It's the maker of the rad fault, because the tubing never had a problem until they started using brand X to flush the rads with.
2. It's the tubing's fault, because it can't handle what the rads are being flushed with.
Like I said earlier, something has changed in the loops, we don't know what it is, but at least they are trying to correct it. Maybe this is a quick fix and they are working on a new tubing as we speak or have gone back to their old tubing.

Just wondering, even after you clean the tubings, will the plasticizer problem still continue to happen?

My question is, is it gunking up the block?
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My question is, is it gunking up the block?

I hope not. I will be tearing my loop down tomorrow to flush it. the water is very murky after using the additive from primochill. It was clear before.
The tubing is all cleaned up now, and I will get some pic's before I break it down to flush it out.

I can say my temps are the same so so far no adverse effects, which I hope means my blocks are not gunked up any.
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Come-on people haven't you guys been following Testing tubing thread? They put all brand of tubing in lab gars with distilled, distilled with silver coil, distilled with PT Nuke and distilled/silver/ PT Nuke. All of the tubing brands clearly had leeching with distilled water only, something has changed, the tubing! The leeching got worse when water temp pushed to 45C, tubing quality is the change.
Edited by Systemlord - 7/15/12 at 11:00pm
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Come-on people haven't you guys been following Testing tubing thread? They put all brand of tubing in lab gars with distilled, distilled with silver coil, distilled with PT Nuke and distilled/silver/ PT Nuke. All of the tubing brands clearly had leeching with distilled water only, something has changed, the tubing! The leeching got worse when water temp pushed to 45C, tubing quality is the change.
The thing is, they only tested Tygon R3603 and Primochill Primoflex LRT tubing, which I've had issues with both personally. However, I've had no problems with Masterkleer / Durelene and have even conducted my own test showing they plasticize and cloud much slower than the Primochill tubing.
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Come-on people haven't you guys been following Testing tubing thread? They put all brand of tubing in lab gars with distilled, distilled with silver coil, distilled with PT Nuke and distilled/silver/ PT Nuke. All of the tubing brands clearly had leeching with distilled water only, something has changed, the tubing! The leeching got worse when water temp pushed to 45C, tubing quality is the change.

I'm not denying other tubing has issues. What I am focused on is the lies Primochill told me in an effort to deny all blame. I am sure other brands are doing the same thing, however, Priomochill are the ones that I was dealing with. They lied, broke their promise and tried their best to avoid any part in this whole mess. Not the way a reputable company acts.
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Let say the rads have something in them that is reacting with the tubing. You can look at it 2 ways.
1. It's the maker of the rad fault, because the tubing never had a problem until they started using brand X to flush the rads with.
2. It's the tubing's fault, because it can't handle what the rads are being flushed with.
Like I said earlier, something has changed in the loops, we don't know what it is, but at least they are trying to correct it. Maybe this is a quick fix and they are working on a new tubing as we speak or have gone back to their old tubing.

I'll believe that this is more than a public relations exercise when I see it. Proof or no change to my opinion. They have lost my trust and respect. No way they get it back easily.

I vote with my wallet. No more Primochill.
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