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post #1221 of 3087
So I looked into why plasticizer migration occurs and I don't think there's anything that can be done about it.

One thing I might try is to actually boil some tubing for a couple hours. That would accelerate the rate of diffusion out of the plastic and it would be a preemptive way to lower the amounts of plasticizer in the tubing before I install it into my computer. This would harden the tubing but that could be a good thing considering I'm using some 3/8-1/2 sections in my loop.
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So without going through all these pages, could someone explain to me WHY plasticizer migration occurs? I wanna know the science behind it so I can find a better answer to the problem without buying all new tubing.

you will need to read alot. google is your friend biggrin.gif
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I had experimented with a few pieces of my new Durelene tubing making very short and funky bends and curves, holy crap! This stuff absolutely refuses to kink! Love it! guitar.gif

Nice smile.gif told ya guys Durelene is the tubing in the market now thumb.gif
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So I looked into why plasticizer migration occurs and I don't think there's anything that can be done about it.
One thing I might try is to actually boil some tubing for a couple hours. That would accelerate the rate of diffusion out of the plastic and it would be a preemptive way to lower the amounts of plasticizer in the tubing before I install it into my computer. This would harden the tubing but that could be a good thing considering I'm using some 3/8-1/2 sections in my loop.

if you going to insist on Primochill i would say good lucky because you will need. but if you going into Durele you be all good just flush the system before the final and that all you need.
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hey bros.

i dont have the time to read through the immense amount of pages. can someone summarize what we ended up concluding?

btw, i'll be using full copper parts and kill coil with distilled water.
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  • Primochill's recent batches of tubing have severe plasticizer problems.
  • We've concluding on a few viable tubing alternatives. Mainly Saint Gobain - Duralene (Same company that makes tygon). There are a few other viable alternatives out there, but this one is most accepted. You can take a look at Clearflex and Tygon Plasticizer free or E-1000.

Edited by EAnushan - 8/18/12 at 3:17pm
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  • Primochill's recent batches of tubing have sever plasticizer problems.
  • We've concluding on a few viable tubing alternatives. Mainly Saint Gobain - Duralene (Same company that makes tygon). There are a few other viable alternatives out there, but this one is most accepted. You can take a look at Clearflex and Tygon Plasticizer free or E-1000.


do any of those offer black or white tubing?
does the leeching affect blocks? if the tube is all black i dont particularly care what the inside looks like unless its damaging equipment.
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do any of those offer black or white tubing?
does the leeching affect blocks? if the tube is all black i dont particularly care what the inside looks like unless its damaging equipment.

Time to start reading. Try the search function.
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Time to start reading. Try the search function.


oh jesus!
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oh jesus!

I don't think he is following this thread.
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You can still get USPS First Class shipping(no tracking) with performance pcs on really small items, about 5-6 dollars to Toronto. I just ordered some Prolimatech PK-3 it was about 6 dollars shipping. If you add 2 it goes too $25 dollars using USPS priority mail, so I guess it has something to do with weight/size. I have ordered lots of things from the states over the years using USPS, lately it always seems to be about 30 dollars for anything substantial. Kinda sucks. I was also looking at ordering some tubing from sidewinder, kinda sucks when its 30 dollars for shipping. Frozen cpu and performance pcs is about the same.

NEVER Ship First Class from anyone. It costs a little more for the next option but it's worth it to ensure you're going to receive your package. I even pay the insurance(PPCs') now cause USPS lost a package and me an PPCs' went at it. To their credit they eventually sent a replacement package with the upgraded shipping. But it only took one issue to corrupt an otherwise seamless process. wink.gif
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  • Primochill's recent batches of tubing have sever plasticizer problems.
  • We've concluding on a few viable tubing alternatives. Mainly Saint Gobain - Duralene (Same company that makes tygon). There are a few other viable alternatives out there, but this one is most accepted. You can take a look at Clearflex and Tygon Plasticizer free or E-1000.


do any of those offer black or white tubing?
does the leeching affect blocks? if the tube is all black i dont particularly care what the inside looks like unless its damaging equipment.

I'm not sure if any of those manufacturers offer Black or White Tubing. There are very few that do however. Feser, PrimoChill... after that I don't know. Plasticizing can occur in any tubing where plasticizer is used. As far as I know it doesn't affect the blocks much if at all. Although I have read through here a couple people have had issues.

I have the White PC tubing and haven't had an issue with Plasticizer. Although the interior of my tubing is greenish in flavor but that's due to the untreated Copper Block I'm running on my CPU. I'm glad I have solid tubing for that reason. biggrin.gif

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I saw a Tygon tube that was opaque black, but of course around $4/ft....was used for medical purposes, and that supposedly was "almost" plastercizer free... and I seem to recall it was equal or more then the 1 type of plastercizer free tubing that Saint-Gobain manufactured. I was actually thinking of buying the 100ft and selling, and then better judgement bit me and i bought the Durelene instead.

Heres the link to the site i reviewed, but i forget which one was pure black.

http://www.processsystems.saint-gobain.com/flex-tubing-tygon.aspx

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