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Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post

Anyone know how MasterKleer fares?
I'm going to need new tubing soon so I can add GPU blocks to the loop and was thinking of going with MasterKleer as I can get it for $17 for 10' from PPCs' which is .80cents cheaper per foot than PrimoChill. I like PrimoChill but can't beat the price for the MK stuff.
Anyone have any experience good or bad with MK's tubing? mellowsmiley.gif
Don't suggest Duralene please they don't have it in colors. wink.gif
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Asked about this once when I did one of my "weekly" visits to FrozenCPU. I've heard they don't move much of it for some reason, so be wary. I'm interested to see why though, it doesn't seem like horrible tubing. I read a review somewhere online awhile back saying it fared well against Primochill and XSPC. Let us know how it goes.
post #1252 of 3084
About 8 moths ago I used black Masterkleer and it was the worst tubing I've ever had the displeasure of using. I noticed my temps going up and upon disassembly the inside of the tubing was solid white. After seeing that I ripped apart my blocks and they were coated about an 1/8" with the same white sticky coating. If it matters I bought it from McMaster.

Then I went with blue Primo and the same thing happened only took a lot longer and nowhere near as bad. I'm now running Duralene for about a month and zero problems and hopefully stays that was smile.gif
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post #1253 of 3084
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Originally Posted by Roman736 View Post

I want red tubing more than low-plasticizer tubing. Don't care if i have to clean it out every few months and it should stop accumulating after a while.

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Originally Posted by WebsterXC View Post

Go with Primochill then, that's actually a pretty deep red. Or like theseeker said, clear with red fluid or dye. The XSPC is orange, marketed as red for some reason. The positive with the dye is you can control HOW red you want things to be.

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Originally Posted by Simplynicko View Post

can you let the plasticizer accumulate on the tube, then empty out the water and use the same tube with no further leeching?

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Originally Posted by WebsterXC View Post

I suppose you could, but you can't be sure that there isn't a constant stream of plasticizes in the tube. The coating on the inside of my Primochill was soft, comparable to chalk. So it's possible that the deposits are always coming off and re-depositing somewhere else in equilibrium. That translates to more gunk in your stuff.

My Primochill red LRT is deff red, and after using the primochill sys scrubber and flushing the loop it has not clouded back up at all.

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My Primochill red LRT is deff red, and after using the primochill sys scrubber and flushing the loop it has not clouded back up at all.


I'm interested to see whether or not your system scrubber stuff affected your hardware. thinking.gif

If not I might give PC another shot when I get new tubing. smile.gif

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My Primochill red LRT is deff red, and after using the primochill sys scrubber and flushing the loop it has not clouded back up at all.

How is it that you are the only person to receive this so called sys scrubber and will/are they going to be selling it anytime soon? Also how did you contact Primochill as they NEVER return my emails?

Thanks, Systemlord.
post #1256 of 3084
Primoflex UV Blue after 6 weeks of use with distilled water and silver kill coil (copper/brass/nickel metals in the loop):
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I am a little pissed off with that ... can I scrub and re-use this tubing or rather replace?
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Yes. Read through the last 2 pages on ideas how to do it. thumb.gif

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Primoflex UV Blue after 6 weeks of use with distilled water and silver kill coil (copper/brass/nickel metals in the loop):
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I am a little pissed off with that ... can I scrub and re-use this tubing or rather replace?

What is the color of the leftovers of the powder when you scrub it?

I have the same metals in my loop as you, same liquid solution and both my Blue AND Black Primochill tubes have the same Bluish Green color of powder... I ask this because i am investigating if everybody has the same OR if the powder is actually white and the color comes out of my copper made MORA3 rad!

Guys.. I would appreciate your input on this!


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I never ran into any problems with primochill since I started using it... thats 4 different batches and colors too.
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@ElGreco... If you have any new Copper blocks or Rads I suspect that it's from that bro. At least with the black. My White PC has that patina in it from my exposed Copper CPU block. I'm pretty sure if I replaced all my tubing that it would lessen over time as the internal chamber starts to turn a brownish tinge. wink.gif

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