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post #1401 of 2590
9/14/12 at 1:24pm
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So, they said it was only aesthetic and then the next sentence said it may (I read that as will) lead to performance issues....
doh.gif

exactly ... and it's funny they say it doesn't harm any other components, because quite recently (after using their system scrubber) I found 2 blue colored snots of 1/4'' diameter inside my Raystorm CPU block (came out when I was flushing the block under tap).
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post #1402 of 2590
9/14/12 at 1:30pm
YUCK!!! I am really enjoying durelene, and it is so much cheaper.
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9/14/12 at 1:39pm
When a manufacture takes responsibility for a product failure, boy do they earn my business and respect, but when they insult my intelligence it disappoints!

There was a thread started (where did it go?) by Mayham where there was testing done in medical sealed glass jars and they simply cut a 4 inch long piece of tubing from every manufacture known to man, anyway to make a long story short, Primochill's tubing overnight had white powder residue all over the inside of the tubing as did other brands just not as bad! Now tell me this, now Primochill knows it's their tubing that's bad and they know that we know, but pretend that we don't know and insult our intelligence! That doesn't make me happy at all.
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9/14/12 at 1:40pm
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well at least they fixed the issue with new tubing and offering the scrubber

well, we don't know if they fixed that "ugly looking residue eventually causing performance issues" or not, because it will be launched to market in November 2012 smile.gif
it's funny how it seems that only 5% (what do they base this number on?) having issues with Primochill tubing while 95% doesn't ... I'd guess it's the other way around ...

Thats easy, because they only responded to 5% of the people contacting them about it.
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The film is purely an aesthetic issue and although ugly we have not found it to be harmful to any of the components. It will however continue to build up over time and this build up may cause performance issues

So, they said it was only aesthetic and then the next sentence said it may (I read that as will) lead to performance issues....
doh.gif

I guess they forgot to mention that it can cause gunking if dye is used in the system. I still blame my self for leaving my PC on when I knew I was going to be gone for a month.

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post #1405 of 2590
9/14/12 at 1:48pm
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YUCK!!! I am really enjoying durelene, and it is so much cheaper.

Just bought 15 feet of this stuff. Gonna rip out the primochill crap next week and see what it looks like. Ill try to report my findings here. Runnign EK premix coolant in the loop with a copper cpu block and nickel gpu block. Gonna just go pure distilled next time and got a nickel cpu block.
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post #1406 of 2590
9/14/12 at 2:40pm
"To clarify: PrimoFlex Pro LRT is not defective and has not changed their formulation in the five years of production and is still the best tubing on the market. Production still remains in the United States. 95% of users will not experience an issue with the cloudiness/film. And what about the 5% who are? Well, we want ALL of our customers to be satisfied so we have come up with a couple of solutions.

Note: The film is purely an aesthetic issue and although ugly we have not found it to be harmful to any of the components. It will however continue to build up over time and this build up may cause performance issues.

Solution One: Contact PrimoChill to receive a free System Scrubber. This solution will gently clean the inner components of your system and remove the film that is collecting on the tubing.

Solution Two: Purchase PrimoChill’s new PrimoFlex™ Advanced Tubing. This tubing will cover the entire spectrum of system loops and their variable setups and will prevent the film from ever occurring. Estimated Launch Date: Nov 1, 2012

We are so excited to offer a solution to the watercooling community. We are always inspired that our users share the same passion for watercooling as we do. Again, we thank those who supported us through this issue and continue to aid in the evolution of watercooling."

What a complete and utter line of Horse Puckey. Primochill must really think their customers have all had frontal lobotomies. If there is no problem, why have solutions?

Well, at least they have remained consistent in their arrogance. They firmly believe that if you deny something long enough, it will go away. If they had stood up from the first and admitted the issue, then the "solutions" would be appreciated as ongoing customer service. Thier approach is simply one of ongoing damage control, done badly and with utter contempt for their customers.

BOYCOTT PRIMOCHILL!!!!
Edited by Capt Proton - 9/14/12 at 2:42pm
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post #1407 of 2590
9/14/12 at 9:32pm
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"To clarify: PrimoFlex Pro LRT is not defective and has not changed their formulation in the five years of production and is still the best tubing on the market. Production still remains in the United States. 95% of users will not experience an issue with the cloudiness/film. And what about the 5% who are? Well, we want ALL of our customers to be satisfied so we have come up with a couple of solutions.
Note: The film is purely an aesthetic issue and although ugly we have not found it to be harmful to any of the components. It will however continue to build up over time and this build up may cause performance issues.
Solution One: Contact PrimoChill to receive a free System Scrubber. This solution will gently clean the inner components of your system and remove the film that is collecting on the tubing.
Solution Two: Purchase PrimoChill’s new PrimoFlex™ Advanced Tubing. This tubing will cover the entire spectrum of system loops and their variable setups and will prevent the film from ever occurring. Estimated Launch Date: Nov 1, 2012
We are so excited to offer a solution to the watercooling community. We are always inspired that our users share the same passion for watercooling as we do. Again, we thank those who supported us through this issue and continue to aid in the evolution of watercooling."
What a complete and utter line of Horse Puckey. Primochill must really think their customers have all had frontal lobotomies. If there is no problem, why have solutions?
Well, at least they have remained consistent in their arrogance. They firmly believe that if you deny something long enough, it will go away. If they had stood up from the first and admitted the issue, then the "solutions" would be appreciated as ongoing customer service. Thier approach is simply one of ongoing damage control, done badly and with utter contempt for their customers.
BOYCOTT PRIMOCHILL!!!!

Primochill is playing stupid and they know we know but still continue in their denial! I'm going to Primochill webpage where they have asked everyone's input, let's go.
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9/14/12 at 10:21pm
I just posted a comment on Primochill website since they want our feedback and after I clicked on submit it says,"Your comment is awaiting moderation." I hope Primochill allows free speech with unedited feedback as I was very polite.
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9/14/12 at 10:34pm
Primochill lost already and they are going down under ... they must be idiots, sorry.
the guy (Brian) I worked with and who sent me the System Scrubber stopped responding to me after I emailed him back my feedback after using it (I was damn polite like in school) ... they are some bunch of morons or half assed monkeys, all I could truly say about them is against TOS (forgive me). **** Primochill and their ******* dangerous tubing, their PR is led by a chimpanzee and their technologists are refusing to believe they ****ed up at some point. In summary from my own personal point of view, Primochill lost me, Feser won me (while having same flexibility and looks on their tubing). Feser UV active tubing is FTW!
... to hell with Primochill and their Primoflex and Primocrap! they are not even going to help me out after their dangerous tubing (6 weeks old) contaminated my whole loop, if that's so then I say **** you to them. no more comments from me on Primochill.

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I just posted a comment on Primochill website since they want our feedback and after I clicked on submit it says,"Your comment is awaiting moderation." I hope Primochill allows free speech with unedited feedback as I was very polite.

it's funny. I left my comment in Product Support section of their webform and it didn't await moderation. message was very juicy (i'm past polite with them) and I hope they read it. unfortunately I won't be getting a reply.
Edited by feniks - 9/14/12 at 11:02pm
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ouch!worriedsmiley.gif poor cat ... yeah, I could have similar trouble, so I stay away from dyes ... or some toxic additives (eg.. automotive coolant mixtures) ... I have an external rad, so even if it leaks some day I don't want to harm my cat friend accidentally...
he was fine lol..just a lil reddish for a while lol he attacked it ..he didnt eat it

Cats bathe. He et it, I don't care how well you cleaned him up. He ingested some of it. wink.gif

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For Sale: Now NO 3g tubes of Shin Etsu G751 to ship... stay tuned
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For Sale: Koolance 2/3 VGA fitting [price is shipped!]
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G. Skill Ripjaws X G. Skill x2 HITACHI 1TB Deskstars 1TB RAID0 ASUS DRW-24B1ST  
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK Supreme High Flow EK Full Coverage Block PrimoChill 1/2"x3/4" tubing EK Black Nickel Compression Fitting 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Enzotech 45 Degree Rotary Fitting EK Dual DDC V2 top Swiftech Pump DDC-1T (2) Liquid Fusion V Double helix Reservoir 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Koolance Black Nickel 2-3 VGA Bridge(temporaril... Yate Loon 120x20 (D12SM-12C) Medium Speed Silen... EK Supreme HF Classified Win7 64 bit Ultimate OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VH222H Black HDMI Widescreen Logitech the OCZ went buhbye adios. Don't know ... Corsair CMPSU HX 850w Modular HAF 932 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Logitech g9x COOLER MASTER Weapon of Choice: M4 Duramesh Pad Logitech X-240 2.1 speakers Sunbeam Rheosmart 3 
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Creative X-Fi Microsoft Lifecam Cinema 
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