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@Ceadderman in the concentrate and the full liters does have multi-metal inhibitors in it...I don't think it has anything to stop plasticizing.

Stopping plasticizing wasn't my main concern(though would have been a plus), what I'm thinking is that if the coolant you run has a biocide in it and you add a coil into the mix, that it causes the PC tubing to leech the Plasticizer quicker than it would if you ran straight distilled with nothing at all since there is a biocide in the tubing.

Think of it a bit like adding chlorine bleach to your whites. A couple capfuls is great and keeps the whites new looking. Too much and your whites come out looking like someone held them too close to an open fire. Cuffs and neck turn all yellowish brown. thinking.gif

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I was using mayhems uv green concentrate + a killcoil so maybe it did cause an accelerated reaction. I had clouding with in 2 days on my Primochill clear tubing and the same with my UV green primochill tubing.

I am going to use a pre mixed coolant this time around with no killcoil and see what happens.
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I was using mayhems uv green concentrate + a killcoil so maybe it did cause an accelerated reaction. I had clouding with in 2 days on my Primochill clear tubing and the same with my UV green primochill tubing.

I am going to use a pre mixed coolant this time around with no killcoil and see what happens.

Right! thumb.gif , keep us posted on how things work out. smile.gif

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Right! thumb.gif , keep us posted on how things work out. smile.gif
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Im interested in knowing the results...It's making me think what would really cause the chemical reaction from the mayhem coolant and the kill coil. Would it be the pure silver from the coil?
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Right! thumb.gif , keep us posted on how things work out. smile.gif
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Im interested in knowing the results...It's making me think what would really cause the chemical reaction from the mayhem coolant and the kill coil. Would it be the pure silver from the coil?

Since I don't know the chemical compounds in the Mayhems, I really cannot say. If there is silver in the mix that would probably be the issue. But not knowing doesn't help narrow it down and I doubt any manufacturer is going to freely hand over trade secrets of their product. thinking.gif

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I just messaged mayhem on here to ask him basically if he has ever noticed any chemical reaction to his product and a kill-coil and basically asked him if his product contains silver or not and if there would be anything in his product that would react to silver. I bet it something to do with the products used to create the UV for the color.

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I just got a question about Primochill did anyone try it with just distilled water? no kill coil, ptnuke or dyes. Just asking coz all i can really find in Aus is Primochill mad.gif
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You need to use some type of biocide or silver in your loop.
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post #1439 of 3087
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drained my water loop yesterday for a motherboard swap. peeked into my Feser Active UV Blue tubing and it's crystal clear, zero problems so far smile.gif


Good for you mate-same with me around 2 months+ 24/7 usage (Feser UV Clear/distilled water/SKC/2 drops extreme, 3 drops blue-both mayhems), not a sign whatsoever. Damn, that durelene that i ordered is gathering dust in a box. tongue.gif

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Anyone know if there are additives in Mayhems? I don't use the stuff so I've no idea what ingredients they use, but if it contains a biocide the killcoil is overkill considering this is one of the components in PrimoChill LRT. Is it not? thinking.gif
Yikees, is that haze from the coolant or is it Plasticizer? stun.gif
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Mate i have read more than one post from Dragon ice users, that 'staining' is normal (sorry but its very early in the am, and im not going to look for the links-just google it smile.gif )

Dunno if silver is an active ingredient in Primochill LRT -hey! actually yes i do! THERE IS NO ACTIVE INGREDIENT IN LRT, OTHERWISE WE WOULD NOT HAVE THOSE PROBLEMS LOL! thumb.gif

@Mayhems+ SKC, unless you are using Distilled water on its own with Mayhem's dye, using a SKC is not needed- X1,pastel stuff, the liquid nail polish (Aurora smile.gif ) all have corrosion inhibitors/biocides etc, so you would be correct in saying that a SKC used with them is overkill.

Actually i'm going to pull the trigger on either Pastel UV white, or that Very Berry which is a blue that matches my sleeve job/mobo colours.

I have to do a bit more in-depth research so that i don't order the wrong colour -which reminds me, i have to contact Mick (Mayhems) i haven't spoken to him since he sent me some dyes (red /blue) which i used on my colleague as a payback prank in his coke-yes people the dyes are that safe-i can vouch for that.

I never got to see the results, although staff said it worked a treat -Murphy's law-i was called out on assignment mad.gif

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i promise to post a reply this week to Brian's Editorial & Damage control endeavours (He is the Primochill head honcho)-it just does not add up whatsoever with the e mail he sent me and im not referring only to the stats that have been gleamed from absolutely NO viable data pool-you want to quote % etc, then show me verifiable samples taken from various focus groups/consumer surveys etc-anything else is deemed to be unverifiable, ergo non usable.

Let's not play with stats here please, cause 100% of us water coolers do not appreciate it! wink.gif

-those of you that have seen the e mail he sent me will know this, sorry ive been slacking a bit these days -STWOR, and getting ready to offload my 7+ yr of use WOW account(with RL work interspersed inbetween) -sorry but im not mucking about with Pandas and Pokemon pets-im too old for that **** tongue.gif
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I just got a question about Primochill did anyone try it with just distilled water? no kill coil, ptnuke or dyes. Just asking coz all i can really find in Aus is Primochill mad.gif

Take this with a large grain of Sodium Chloride because I have White PrimoChill LRT in my loop. It's Opaque and it's white so it might not show as easily.

In any case I do run it with only distilled in my loop. My Res is still as clear as when I cleaned the lime deposits out of it since it was used and the fella rinsed it prior to shipping it. Also my BNIB at purchase HF Supreme v1 Classified block is still clear. Although it is Red. The last time I changed the coolant (about a month and a half ago after 4 months use ) I didn't notice any plasticizer. I did notice the green patina that my Copper block and Radiator left behind but that's it. There was no powdery residue to wipe the green tint off the inside of the tubing.

Prior running this tubing I completely rinsed out the Radiator until there was no particles to be had. Using a hot flush and using a mix of 250ml Vinegar/ 250 Distilled as hot as I could stand it (damn the radiator was smokin hot biggrin.gif) followed by 1000ml of boiling hot distilled and 500ml of cold distilled to render whatever vinegar was left behind inert. Then I thoroughly rinsed the CPU block to make sure there were no particles left behind from the milling, not that I expected there to be but one can never be too careful right? smile.gif

If I can find the little bit of tubing I have left I can pull the Full Coverage to CPU length and show what it looks like internally later around wednesday. I've got outdoor plumbing work to be doing on Monday an Tuesday so there is no way to do it then, if people are interested in my findings from straight distilled and PC tubing. smile.gif

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