Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Water Cooling › Plasticizer Problems / Discussion / Gallery
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Plasticizer Problems / Discussion / Gallery - Page 167

post #1661 of 3087
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squallalaha View Post

I have seen this same issue (thanks to fenicks for sending me here).
I had a new loop setup with red and blue 7/16 x 5/8 Primochill from microcenter.
The blue has this issue after 3 weeks, the red, seems fine though. you can see in this pic where I have the CPU loop water, and then the fill port, the loop is no longer opaque as the fill port tube is.
Also the Second loop is new tubing in the pic. So the pump in the top right, for the GPU loop, has new in/out blue tube. The bottom right is the res/fill port for the CPU loop that ran for ~3 weeks.
IMAG0293.jpg
What proves this further, as a problem with primochill. is in the second pic here, the blue tube after the CPU to the MB, there is actually a piece of 3/8 x 5/8 DangerDen tubing (the barb on the MB is only 3/8), and when I looked at it, it showed NO signs of any film whatsoever.
IMAG0290.jpg
Anyways, think I would be able to take this back to Microcenter as a defective product? Show them the DD tube and the PC next to each other?
Thanks

wow, do you have a Tt Armor case? same as I do I think, and also painted black biggrin.gif
I have a reservoir in spot where you mounted the pump though biggrin.gif pretty interesting how you mounted a radiator at the top! I keep my second one externally mounted (on Swiftech Radbox) though, also made cutouts in MB tray for better cable management.
post #1662 of 3087
Hey Fen,

yeah its a TT Armor Kandalf LCS. Actually the rad is up front, not on top. There was a factory Rad in a swing out door along the whole front (360) and then the one you can see in the Pic is where the HDD cage would go, so 2 x 360 one internal the other external but mounted to the front.

I have a thread going on the build/rebuild, I believe it was 'r3configur3d' that had a TT Armor he modded, that made me want to do mine.

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?24030-Thermaltake-Kandalf-LCS-Redux&p=169899&posted=1#post169899

and then the Modrigs for it.

http://www.modsrigs.com/detail.aspx?BuildID=30937

Adding this for the DB on Tubing:

Brand: PrimoFlex Pro LRT UV Blue
Source: Microcenter
Purchase Date: July, 2012
Color: Blue
Transparent? (y/n): (um, not clear, but you can see through it..lol..sry.)
Liquid / Additives: Fluid XP+ H2O Industrial Grade Deionized Water UV Invisible Blue
Kill Coil (y/n): No
PH Balance: no idea, sry.
Block Material(s): Copper
Tubing Dimensions: 7/16 x 5/8 x 10ft.
Period of Time: in pics - 4 weeks max.
Tubing Condition & Description: White film on inside of tube.
Notes/Comments: You can see from the previous pics, that the old tubing is no longer clear, as evidenced near the fittings, the new tube, you can see the 'nipple' end of the fitting throught eh tube, the old on, its cloudy and you can no longer see it.

Had a 8 inch piece of Danger Den 3/8 x 5/8 right after the CPU block, where the primochill comes into the cpu block, and it had no signs of this film whatsoever.
Edited by Squallalaha - 10/24/12 at 10:28am
post #1663 of 3087
Quote:
Originally Posted by B NEGATIVE View Post

Exactly this.
However.there is an alternative....
Yes, I know how to work copper tubing as you can see from the pic below:
19680_104191496270570_4287726_n.jpg

But I don't think that's for everyone, especially beginners. redface.gif
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ci7 5960XK @ 4.3GHz ASRock X99E-ITX NVIDIA GTX Titan X Pascal 32GB DDR4-3200 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
2x 256GB SSD RAID0 Adata SP550 960GB (storage) Samsung SE-506 EK-Supremacy MX 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win10 Pro Dell P4317Q Cherry MX-Board 3.0 (MX Blue) EVGA 650W GS 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
In Win D-Frame Mini HP VoodooDNA Roccat Adrenaline 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ci7 5960XK @ 4.3GHz ASRock X99E-ITX NVIDIA GTX Titan X Pascal 32GB DDR4-3200 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
2x 256GB SSD RAID0 Adata SP550 960GB (storage) Samsung SE-506 EK-Supremacy MX 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win10 Pro Dell P4317Q Cherry MX-Board 3.0 (MX Blue) EVGA 650W GS 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
In Win D-Frame Mini HP VoodooDNA Roccat Adrenaline 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1664 of 3087

How many people have tried this "Scrubber" that Primochill is giving away to people who complain?

I know I read about 1 guy a couple pages back but has anyone else tried it?

Problem Child
(13 items)
 
TROUBLEMAKER
(14 items)
 
Alienbuild1
(13 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930k Asus Rampage IV Extreme 7970 G.Skill 16g 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Mushkin 120 SSD WD 1TB Asus 24x XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
EK mobo waterblocks W7 Ultimate HP LA2205wg x 3 Antec 1000 TPQ 
Case
NZXT Switch 810 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 760 4.0@1.26v MSI P55-GD80 GTX 460 G.Skill 4x2gb ddr3 1600 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD 840gb Asus 24x H100i W7 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
HP LA2205wg  HP  1000 w Antec Lanboy Air 
Mouse
Microsoft Arc 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II 955 C3 ma790x-ud4p Radeon HD 5770 OC OCZ 800 4x2gb 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2-500gb WD Caviar Blue raid0 LG Super Multi 24x, Asus 24x Windows 7 Ultimate 64 LG 23" 
PowerCase
Raidmax RX630Z Logisys Case 51 
  hide details  
Reply
Problem Child
(13 items)
 
TROUBLEMAKER
(14 items)
 
Alienbuild1
(13 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930k Asus Rampage IV Extreme 7970 G.Skill 16g 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Mushkin 120 SSD WD 1TB Asus 24x XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
EK mobo waterblocks W7 Ultimate HP LA2205wg x 3 Antec 1000 TPQ 
Case
NZXT Switch 810 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 760 4.0@1.26v MSI P55-GD80 GTX 460 G.Skill 4x2gb ddr3 1600 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD 840gb Asus 24x H100i W7 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
HP LA2205wg  HP  1000 w Antec Lanboy Air 
Mouse
Microsoft Arc 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II 955 C3 ma790x-ud4p Radeon HD 5770 OC OCZ 800 4x2gb 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2-500gb WD Caviar Blue raid0 LG Super Multi 24x, Asus 24x Windows 7 Ultimate 64 LG 23" 
PowerCase
Raidmax RX630Z Logisys Case 51 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1665 of 3087
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squallalaha View Post

Hey Fen,
yeah its a TT Armor Kandalf LCS. Actually the rad is up front, not on top. There was a factory Rad in a swing out door along the whole front (360) and then the one you can see in the Pic is where the HDD cage would go, so 2 x 360 one internal the other external but mounted to the front.
I have a thread going on the build/rebuild, I believe it was 'r3configur3d' that had a TT Armor he modded, that made me want to do mine.
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?24030-Thermaltake-Kandalf-LCS-Redux&p=169899&posted=1#post169899
and then the Modrigs for it.
http://www.modsrigs.com/detail.aspx?BuildID=30937

great job! yup, Kandalf is pretty much same as Armor, I never had an LCS package with it though, so modded all from scratch biggrin.gif
biggrin.gif have you had a chance to to look at the rig in my sig? wink.gif
I feel proud that my work become someone else's inspiration biggrin.gif
"he" = me (I am present on different forums) thumb.gif

giving you a +1 in MR too, post some pics over there wink.gif
post #1666 of 3087
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevdog View Post

How many people have tried this "Scrubber" that Primochill is giving away to people who complain?
I know I read about 1 guy a couple pages back but has anyone else tried it?

I did, results were mediocre and I would personally stay away from this if problems (white residue) already occurred in your tubing AND components (rads, blocks) already has it inside too ... or use it at own responsibility to liquify stuff to make it easier for cleaning/flushing of all components later (you will need to open all blocks and scrub them) and discard the tubing and go with something else.
post #1667 of 3087
Quote:
Originally Posted by feniks View Post

I did, results were mediocre and I would personally stay away from this if problems (white residue) already occurred in your tubing AND components (rads, blocks) already has it inside too ... or use it at own responsibility to liquify stuff to make it easier for cleaning/flushing of all components later (you will need to open all blocks and scrub them) and discard the tubing and go with something else.

I've never had the residue combine with the liquid or leave debris on the blocks and rads smile.gif

Seems to cake/build-up on the inner tube wall and that's it thumb.gif
post #1668 of 3087
Quote:
Originally Posted by wermad View Post

I've never had the residue combine with the liquid or leave debris on the blocks and rads smile.gif
Seems to cake/build-up on the inner tube wall and that's it thumb.gif

not quite so ... this is how my Raystorm block looked alike after being used with Primochill tubing for 6 weeks below. Also upon initial flush under hot tap water (closed block) right after 4 days of using Primo's Sys Scrubber, the block spit out 2 blobs of blue gel from each of ports, each blob the diameter of around 1/4'' ...

BEFORE cleaning (if you zoom in you will see bluish gel particles in jet area):


AFTER cleaning:
post #1669 of 3087
Quote:
Originally Posted by feniks View Post

not quite so ... this is how my Raystorm block looked alike after being used with Primochill tubing for 6 weeks below. Also upon initial flush under hot tap water (closed block) right after 4 days of using Primo's Sys Scrubber, the block spit out 2 blobs of blue gel from each of ports, each blob the diameter of around 1/4'' ...
BEFORE cleaning (if you zoom in you will see bluish gel particles in jet area):

AFTER cleaning:

I might have been lucky then because the liquid was pristine. I sold off all my stuff back then and I didn't see anything resembling yours. Might be that yours was excessive thinking.gif

I'll check mine in a month to see how it does wink.gif
post #1670 of 3087
Quote:
Originally Posted by wermad View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by feniks View Post

not quite so ... this is how my Raystorm block looked alike after being used with Primochill tubing for 6 weeks below. Also upon initial flush under hot tap water (closed block) right after 4 days of using Primo's Sys Scrubber, the block spit out 2 blobs of blue gel from each of ports, each blob the diameter of around 1/4'' ...
BEFORE cleaning (if you zoom in you will see bluish gel particles in jet area):

AFTER cleaning:

I might have been lucky then because the liquid was pristine. I sold off all my stuff back then and I didn't see anything resembling yours. Might be that yours was excessive thinking.gif

I'll check mine in a month to see how it does wink.gif

I'll check my blocks when I replace the rest of my fittings. I'm not sure how dirty it is inside my Supreme HF because it's still quite shiny inside when you shine a light over it but the place that I'm worried about plasticizer build up is in the FC block since it's before the CPU. The small bit of tubing connecting them shouldn't leach enough to impact the CPU block that badly. It's the run from the Pumps to the FC Block that has me worried no matter how smooth it is inside the block. Too many places for it to latch onto. Specifically the access plate. I'm hoping that I won't have to remove my block from the Motherboard cause it's such a pain in the azz, as my cutout isn't large enough to do so without pulling the board completely. Might be a good idea to consider modding in an access opening for those points on my Mainboard Tray. thinking.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif
Edited by Ceadderman - 10/25/12 at 1:43am
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Crosshair IV Formula Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 
RAMRAMRAMHard Drive
Corsair Dominator G. Skill Ripjaws X G. Skill x2 HITACHI 1TB Deskstars 1TB RAID0 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
ASUS DRW-24B1ST  Swiftech 6950/6870 GPU Heatsink Swiftech 6950/6870 GPU Heatsink Monsoon 1/2"x5/8" PETG White Hardline tubing. 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Monsoon Economy Hardline fittings EK Dual DDC V2 top Swiftech Pump DDC-1T (2) Liquid Fusion V Double helix Reservoir 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Yate Loon 120x20 (D12SM-12C) Medium Speed Silen... EK Supreme HF Classified EK Thermosphere GPU Block EK Thermosphere GPU Block 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win7 64 bit Ultimate OEM Asus VH222H Black HDMI Widescreen Logitech the OCZ went buhbye adios. Don't know ... Corsair CMPSU HX 850w Modular 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
HAF 932 Logitech g9x COOLER MASTER Weapon of Choice: M4 Duramesh Pad Logitech X-240 2.1 speakers 
OtherOther
Sunbeam Rheosmart 3 Creative X-Fi 
  hide details  
Reply
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Crosshair IV Formula Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 
RAMRAMRAMHard Drive
Corsair Dominator G. Skill Ripjaws X G. Skill x2 HITACHI 1TB Deskstars 1TB RAID0 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
ASUS DRW-24B1ST  Swiftech 6950/6870 GPU Heatsink Swiftech 6950/6870 GPU Heatsink Monsoon 1/2"x5/8" PETG White Hardline tubing. 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Monsoon Economy Hardline fittings EK Dual DDC V2 top Swiftech Pump DDC-1T (2) Liquid Fusion V Double helix Reservoir 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Yate Loon 120x20 (D12SM-12C) Medium Speed Silen... EK Supreme HF Classified EK Thermosphere GPU Block EK Thermosphere GPU Block 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win7 64 bit Ultimate OEM Asus VH222H Black HDMI Widescreen Logitech the OCZ went buhbye adios. Don't know ... Corsair CMPSU HX 850w Modular 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
HAF 932 Logitech g9x COOLER MASTER Weapon of Choice: M4 Duramesh Pad Logitech X-240 2.1 speakers 
OtherOther
Sunbeam Rheosmart 3 Creative X-Fi 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Water Cooling
Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Water Cooling › Plasticizer Problems / Discussion / Gallery