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I received the system scrubber today and decided to go for it, with in 10 minutes it started working here is a pic and the instructions from Primochill

 

 

 

 

 

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Yeah um... NO, I don't think so. I'll not be using System scrubber.

If it was MY fault, yeah okay I can do that. It's already leaching I can't make it any worse. But this plasticizer issue is not my fault and I'm using Opaque tubing so I can imagine what could happen to the internals of my loop in 4 days of running it. Don't even know if it's safe for acrylics and to get a replacement top for my CPU block I'd have to order from EK who will drop some wild azz shipping charge on it because if I use this stuff and knackers my blocks it's on me. Forget that noise.

~Ceadder

Can i pose a hypothesis?

Could the problem people have with tubing be an issue of the ph level adjusting out of neutral?

All types of water, distilled or tap will work its way up or down the ph scale. Could the plastizer leeching in tubing be from the water falling out of neutral and attacking the tubing? Standard watercooler practise is to use distilled, but every watercooler uses different brands of distilled water, and it is probably safe to say even the same brand has different batches. The water being bought is not gaurenteed to be at a neutral ph, it is just gaurenteed to be free of mineral and deposites.

Water will naturally become more acidic/base, based on the enviornment the water is in. Example being pools and aquariums, would it be worth testing to see if this natural occurance is the issue with the plasticizer leeching?
Edited by NimbleJack - 10/25/12 at 7:33pm

I asked if it would damage anything,

 

 

Doubtful. I started off with a PH level below 1(WalMart Brand Distilled which Martin from Liquid Labs recommends) I think the PH level he tested was around .7ph. I doubt that running 0 additives in a closed loop would impact the PH level enough to make it suck the plasticizer out of the tubing. Not to mention that by PC's own admission their tubing leaches at above 30c. Nobody runs Load temps at below 30c without a chiller in the loop. So it would be pointless to run a Water Cooling loop of any sort unless you didn't do anything except browsing.

I thought it might be killcoil cause that's the one thing that most everybody to a man runs. I don't run either coil or additives in my system. Just straight distilled and Distilled is so cheap I change it every 3 months now. I was into my system about a week or so ago now and I found that I didn't dodge any bullets. Got mowed down by Plasticizer like a DDay soldier leaving the protective cover of a Landing Craft. Not to be disrespectful to them in the slightest. You take your chances with PC tubing.

@KevDog.I appreciate that KD, still I'm not gonna screw around with my system. These things cost enough and they could tell me that it would turn my tubes into 18k gold. I still won't use it because of their insistence that they won't accept any liability.

~Ceadder
Edited by Ceadderman - 10/25/12 at 7:45pm

I'm actually really curious what happens. Someone else tried using it too and said that after he ran the system scrubber, it didn't plasticize anymore. Maybe I want to try the system scrubber too to see what happens.

Mine is running system scrubber now. Res is all cloudy. My guess is the anti microbial they put in the tubing since the new advanced tubing does not have that.

I believe Primochill has figured out what is causing the issue with their tubing, the System Scrubber is proof of that! I truly believe Primochill's newer advance tubing will be effective just like the System Scrubber. Call it a hunch if you will.

Smartest comment i read in this whole thread. Someday people with realize it happens to ALL brand tubing and you can have the same identical tubing from the same roll in 2 systems 1 might cloud one might not. Been testing tubing non stop for over a year now every day its running and threw out tons of it 100's of feet . listened to many comments of the great tubing brands here also thinking someone found a solution, they are also in the trash now. there is a tubing that's perfect and will be available Nov 1st but most here wont try it anyway. Besides that the scrubber is safe stuff i use it all the time just to clean my loop when changing colors.I have said it before and will say it again its not the tubing and def not a particular brand. not meaning to sound harsh but this threads been here like a year now and everyone is just saying the same old thing and bashing the company who solved it. The Tubing is here its only sold in clear and will be available Nov 1st. Believe me or not thats all i can do. I have done my part testing my arse off and i know its good so there is the answer. now maby this thread will go away. LOL

anyway take care guys

MybadOmen

not mad just tired and been testing overtime lately to make damn sure we really have a cloud proof tubing.

here it is by the way still running and i had my cpu to 98C !!! just to see if it affected the tubing and nope.

This photo don't show much besides you can see its way shinier then normal tubing. will take some shots when i change colors again.

PH7 is neutral,PH1 is hydrofluoric acid and the like...



No,if they had figured it out,they would modify the composition to stop it happening,the Sysclean is cleaning,not stopping it from happening.

Sysclean....so safe they put a corrosive warning on the side....


Edited by B NEGATIVE - 10/26/12 at 12:51am