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Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post

Doubtful. I started off with a PH level below 1(WalMart Brand Distilled which Martin from Liquid Labs recommends) I think the PH level he tested was around .7ph. I doubt that running 0 additives in a closed loop would impact the PH level enough to make it suck the plasticizer out of the tubing. Not to mention that by PC's own admission their tubing leaches at above 30c. Nobody runs Load temps at below 30c without a chiller in the loop. So it would be pointless to run a Water Cooling loop of any sort unless you didn't do anything except browsing. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
I thought it might be killcoil cause that's the one thing that most everybody to a man runs. I don't run either coil or additives in my system. Just straight distilled and Distilled is so cheap I change it every 3 months now. I was into my system about a week or so ago now and I found that I didn't dodge any bullets. Got mowed down by Plasticizer like a DDay soldier leaving the protective cover of a Landing Craft. Not to be disrespectful to them in the slightest. You take your chances with PC tubing. mellowsmiley.gif
@KevDog.I appreciate that KD, still I'm not gonna screw around with my system. These things cost enough and they could tell me that it would turn my tubes into 18k gold. I still won't use it because of their insistence that they won't accept any liability. puke.gif
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PH7 is neutral,PH1 is hydrofluoric acid and the like...


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I believe Primochill has figured out what is causing the issue with their tubing, the System Scrubber is proof of that! I truly believe Primochill's newer advance tubing will be effective just like the System Scrubber. Call it a hunch if you will.

No,if they had figured it out,they would modify the composition to stop it happening,the Sysclean is cleaning,not stopping it from happening.

Sysclean....so safe they put a corrosive warning on the side....


Well I guess that It's not .7ph then. tongue.gif lol Otherwise the stuff woulda eaten it's way through the tubing and I'd have more than plasticizer to worry about. doh.gif

Thanks for the correcttion BNeg. cheers.gif

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yeah i was about to call you out on the pH too. lol
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Mine is running system scrubber now. Res is all cloudy. My guess is the anti microbial they put in the tubing since the new advanced tubing does not have that.

mine did the same thing within 24hrs, all the water became cloudy (in res), kept it for 4 days and drained it fully, each component alone after initial drain ... I then flushed them all under hot tap water (and a dab of liquid soap) ... that's how I found the CPU block had some loose blue gel inside ... tubes weren't cleaned thoroughly, had still to scrub them with a stick and sponge (and liquid soap) until clean then flush ... afer all was re-installed, the tube clouding returned in a week or so in some spots ...
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I asked if it would damage anything,


I like that, "Instructions are included" and the "instructions" tell you to "use at your own risk". Nice way of protecting your customers, and portraying a positive atitude about your company at the saime time.
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So far the tubing is a bit cloudy. When this new tubing gets released, I'll test it too. Blocks are clean so far. My system runs warm at 60c under load so it should be leeching already. I can't get my money back from the tubing so might as well get as much use out of it as possible.
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Smartest comment i read in this whole thread. Someday people with realize it happens to ALL brand tubing and you can have the same identical tubing from the same roll in 2 systems 1 might cloud one might not. Been testing tubing non stop for over a year now every day its running and threw out tons of it 100's of feet . listened to many comments of the great tubing brands here also thinking someone found a solution, they are also in the trash now. there is a tubing that's perfect and will be available Nov 1st but most here wont try it anyway. Besides that the scrubber is safe stuff i use it all the time just to clean my loop when changing colors.I have said it before and will say it again its not the tubing and def not a particular brand. not meaning to sound harsh but this threads been here like a year now and everyone is just saying the same old thing and bashing the company who solved it. The Tubing is here its only sold in clear and will be available Nov 1st. Believe me or not thats all i can do. I have done my part testing my arse off and i know its good so there is the answer. now maby this thread will go away. LOL

anyway take care guys

MybadOmen

not mad just tired and been testing overtime lately to make damn sure we really have a cloud proof tubing.

here it is by the way still running and i had my cpu to 98C !!! just to see if it affected the tubing and nope.

This photo don't show much besides you can see its way shinier then normal tubing. will take some shots when i change colors again.




Yes other tubing will cloud, no one is saying other wise. What people are saying is the Primochill's stuff has started leaving this crap all over are loops, even though in the past it never has like it does now. I'm talking very fast and lots of it, more so than any other tubing even Primochill's tubing of the past. I'm sorry, we all know the tubing will react different in every loop, so your results may very from others, and the fact you have been sponsored by them along with working with them doesn't help your case for trying to clear their name. I don't think this thread is going anywhere until they quit selling the stuff they have now. But if this new stuff isn't any better than Durelene or at the same price point, I don't see a lot of people going back unless they come out with color tubing.
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Month two of using Durelene - still crystal clear.
I put a few drops of system scrubber into the loop alongside with a silver coil this time just for good measure.

????? why?
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I'm pretty sure that system scrubber isn't for 24/7 use, just for cleaning.

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yup, Primo says it should be used up to 4 days only.

THIS^


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I believe Primochill has figured out what is causing the issue with their tubing, the System Scrubber is proof of that! I truly believe Primochill's newer advance tubing will be effective just like the System Scrubber. Call it a hunch if you will.

The Marketing campaign begins wink.gif

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Smartest comment i read in this whole thread. Someday people with realize it happens to ALL brand tubing and you can have the same identical tubing from the same roll in 2 systems 1 might cloud one might not. Been testing tubing non stop for over a year now every day its running and threw out tons of it 100's of feet . listened to many comments of the great tubing brands here also thinking someone found a solution, they are also in the trash now. there is a tubing that's perfect and will be available Nov 1st but most here wont try it anyway. Besides that the scrubber is safe stuff i use it all the time just to clean my loop when changing colors.I have said it before and will say it again its not the tubing and def not a particular brand. not meaning to sound harsh but this threads been here like a year now and everyone is just saying the same old thing and bashing the company who solved it. The Tubing is here its only sold in clear and will be available Nov 1st. Believe me or not thats all i can do. I have done my part testing my arse off and i know its good so there is the answer. now maby this thread will go away. LOL
anyway take care guys
MybadOmen

And takes full flight!!!!

I really hope that people use their own brains and judgement, instead of listening to sponsored rig builders who are trying to 'cloud' (excuse the pun) the truth, just so they can get their products for free-we already heard from this guy before, and he would have us believe that what so many users of Primochill have suffered is their fault! (as Mybadomen suggested in his last post sometime back)

And i quote again from his passage 'everyone is just saying the same old thing and bashing the company who solved it. The Tubing is here its only sold in clear and will be available Nov 1st.'

1)solved what?? I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS NO PROBLEM-HELL YOU WERE SHOUTING IT FROM THE MOUNTAIN TOPS LOL!

2)Where is proof of your prior testing that you have mentioned-more to the point who are you that we should pay attention to your results?
In what capacity are you making these unproven statements? I could whip up a batch of false results with excel in 1 hr.

3)Clear tubing without problems already exists-its called Durelene-give it a rest with your snake oil. Sure Primochill may come out with a similar sort of tubing, but stop insulting people's intelligence with marketing crap!

4) ill repeat myself and say the same thing i said the last time this Mybadomen tried to create false impressions-he is a sponsored rig builder and would say anything on behalf of his sponsors-but then again, you guys are smart enough to have figured that out yourselves thumb.gif

He was the same guy when EK had the plating prob, posted words to the effect that all is ok with the nickel products-hey, did i forget to mention that he was being sponsored by EK at the time?

http://www.overclock.net/t/915966/please-read-before-purchasing-ek-nickel-plated-blocks-update-revised-plating-info/1390 (post 1394)Funny how this guy has no problems with any of his sponsored gear........


The tubing company that has 'solved' all our tubing problems should at least get someone with better marketing communication skills to try to create false flags or belittle people's valid opinions-as an agent provocateur he fails big time thumb.gif



You know what gets me? Even if Primochill's tubing was fault free, and they were being wrongly dragged over the coals(which they are not),
they should show some class, instead of sending substandard mouthpieces to insult a wide range of current and ex Primochill users, they should let their products do the talking, the proof is in the pudding, so to speak-because i am sure that if their product is up to par, everyone here would gladly say so (me included)-what better advertising could they wish for than having ex disgruntled customers change their tune wink.gif
Edited by kkorky - 10/26/12 at 7:48pm
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So far the tubing is a bit cloudy. When this new tubing gets released, I'll test it too. Blocks are clean so far. My system runs warm at 60c under load so it should be leeching already. I can't get my money back from the tubing so might as well get as much use out of it as possible.

I believe it is the temperature of the water that can encourage leaching, not the component. I don't think it matters what your CPU is running at if your water temp is below 30.
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Smartest comment i read in this whole thread. Someday people with realize it happens to ALL brand tubing and you can have the same identical tubing from the same roll in 2 systems 1 might cloud one might not. Been testing tubing non stop for over a year now every day its running and threw out tons of it 100's of feet . listened to many comments of the great tubing brands here also thinking someone found a solution, they are also in the trash now. there is a tubing that's perfect and will be available Nov 1st but most here wont try it anyway. Besides that the scrubber is safe stuff i use it all the time just to clean my loop when changing colors.I have said it before and will say it again its not the tubing and def not a particular brand. not meaning to sound harsh but this threads been here like a year now and everyone is just saying the same old thing and bashing the company who solved it. The Tubing is here its only sold in clear and will be available Nov 1st. Believe me or not thats all i can do. I have done my part testing my arse off and i know its good so there is the answer. now maby this thread will go away. LOL
anyway take care guys
MybadOmen
not mad just tired and been testing overtime lately to make damn sure we really have a cloud proof tubing.
here it is by the way still running and i had my cpu to 98C !!! just to see if it affected the tubing and nope.
This photo don't show much besides you can see its way shinier then normal tubing. will take some shots when i change colors again.


hey, hey!!!! Long time no see buddy! Thanks for your continual commitment and work on this. I'm uv blue; using some Primochill from a few months back and a new roll. I'm going to check later how the new piece does.
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Colored advanced LRT is supposed to be of after the first of the year. My UV blue pro LRT is clearing up pretty well with the scrubber, but there should have never been that much build up in a week. I'll be getting some of the advanced LRT as soon as it comes out to test and see how it compares.
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