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Good luck with that mate-i actually spoke to Brian (CEO of primochill) a while back via e mail, and he offered to make things right by me, over a week ago i contacted him requesting some of the new tubing as compensation for the old tubing-i am yet to have had a reply.
ill give him a few more weeks because i don't think that the new tubing is actually on the market as yet-if he still ignores me, ill post ALL the info that i have, the promises etc, and go from there wink.gif
Patience young padawan biggrin.gif

not surprised at all that Brian ignored you. he did the same to me after I sent him my experience with the sample of System Scrubber, zero replies, totally ignored me and the problem it caused (blue gel residue loosened by Sys Scrubber nearly clogged my Raystorm CPU block) ... I can email him again asking for a sample of new tubing, but somehow I don't really want to have anything to do with Primochill ever again. they suck and Brian is a dick.
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Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post

Not to start another topic within this topic...
This has me concerned. Having just gone with Monsoon fittings I do not like the sound of that. mellowsmiley.gif
~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

The chipping on the fittings is on the outer ring from the tool that you use. This will not cause any problems with the block as it doesn't come in contact of your acutally loop just the outer tubing. On my monsoons the only parts that ship is on the outer compression where you have to use the tool to tighten the compression down.

Ummmm I think you're forgetting the inner portion when you use the tool to tighten the fitting to the block. If it chips there (pretty sure mine didn't though) then you surely will have a problem. I think as long as you're careful you shouldn't have an issue but the next time I use my tool, I will be putting a bit of tape on the ring and the fork to cover my azz and make absolutely sure. After putting a minor scratch in one of the collars trying to take it off a piece of tubing with a wrench (had absolutely no choice) I am well aware just how thin the plating is. As much as these babies cost there is no excuse for plating this thin. imho. 2cents.gifwink.gif

I think that anyone who has LRT and can show that they are affected by this issue should get a coupon on their next purchase of PrimoChill tubing. Running straight distilled should not leach the plasticizer out of the tube under normal operating temperatures. typer.gif

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Apart from obvious plasticizer residue in your tubes, you also seem to have a flaking problem with your Monsoon fitting(s) if they are still under warranty i would suggest that you RMA them.
The flaking residue from the fittings will present a much more serious problem right now(the plasticizer can be dealt with afterwards, but not too long afterwards wink.gif)
Failure to remove any items in your loop that are flaking will clog up your blocks and also may cause damage (not to mention clogging) to your pump-deal with this now mate.
Edit:do like i suggested to Rakin after you have dealt with your immediate problem, get clear tubing and dye-you will have much less of a plasticizer problem.
A prior reading of this thread will tell you what tubing is suitable, a few posts back i listed a few examples of clear tubing & dye/coolant suitable for your needs.
Dump the white Primochill!

Well addressing the tubing problem first I think I will get rid of the white primochill even though I JUST bought it -.- and will move onto a clear tubing and dye. As for the monsoons I have not figured out why the paint came off of them it seems to be a problem with just one acetal top on my pump and them... The rest of the fittings are fine and I will have to do a very detailed look to make sure that none of it has ended up inside the loop.
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Originally Posted by Socks keep you warm View Post

It's all PrimoChill.
They have new tubing released on the 1st Nov, called Advanced which stops the growth.

hmmm sceptical about this...
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Originally Posted by skyn3t View Post

This is what i have been doing here at this thread to convince everyone to stop using Primo chill tubing because this is not acceptable. This stuff can harm your components but wont wait to see it. My advice to you is using Durelene tubing Only in clear, if you want to be red get Meyhems Dye check out this thread you may like it. but please don't said you hate Dye before you check out this thread first.
Primo chill LRT Red with Cream cheese inside tongue.gif

I personally love dye! never used it before but like the look it gives much better. I agree that the Primochill is unacceptable from here on out. and I actually use PrimoChill LRT Cream Cheese Red for my tubing lol...
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Originally Posted by Rakin View Post

Read back a few pages and you'll see its a Primochill related issue mostly. So avoid Primo for now perhaps?

Yup avoiding it will have to look a few pages back for sure
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Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post

Not to start another topic within this topic...
This has me concerned. Having just gone with Monsoon fittings I do not like the sound of that. mellowsmiley.gif
~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

I dont feel it is that big of a concern there is just something up with my acetal top I think... Because as I said it only came off there... (also responded to you in my build log about the hanging threads)
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Swiftech and Monsoon fittings are the worse fitting for me in the market the material used for make those fittings are so cheap. the Swiftech fittings if you can bend the Edges with your fingers. The Paint in the Monsoon fittings is nice but paint and material is not durable. PS: i just have build two new system with Monsoon and Swiftech and I know what B Negative talk about

LOL well this is funny to me I just got some swiftech fittings as well >.< I dont find them that bad actually I cant bend the edges and for the money I paid for them I cant complain at all... As for the monsoons I would buy them again with out a doubt This is just one small problem I have had with them but I still love them.
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Originally Posted by corysti View Post

The chipping on the fittings is on the outer ring from the tool that you use. This will not cause any problems with the block as it doesn't come in contact of your acutally loop just the outer tubing. On my monsoons the only parts that ship is on the outer compression where you have to use the tool to tighten the compression down.

There isnt actually any chipping at all on the outer ring of my monsoon's it is just the glare of the lighting that I took it in.


Thank you all for the help in a conclusion... NEVER buy PrimoChill tubing again, go with a quality clear tubing with dye. Monsoons are still great fittings and I will continue to use them and I would buy them again. But I am sad because now I have tubing that I have no use for... mad.gif

EDIT: missed Ceadderman - I agree just have to be extra careful with these fittings thats all. And I HIGHLY agree with the coupon I am really quite annoyed about it right now.
Edited by golfergolfer - 11/3/12 at 9:22pm
    
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NEVER buy PrimoChill tubing again, go with a quality clear tubing with dye. Monsoons are still great fittings and I will continue to use them and I would buy them again. But I am sad because now I have tubing that I have no use for... mad.gif

Thats what EBay is for wink.gif
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Thats what EBay is for wink.gif

HAHAHA Well I think I will use the white stuff for planning and then use the good stuff for the actual loop thumb.gif

EDIT: Also which tubing should I use? Tygon 3603 or Tygon E-1000
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Ummmm I think you're forgetting the inner portion when you use the tool to tighten the fitting to the block. If it chips there (pretty sure mine didn't though) then you surely will have a problem. I think as long as you're careful you shouldn't have an issue but the next time I use my tool, I will be putting a bit of tape on the ring and the fork to cover my azz and make absolutely sure. After putting a minor scratch in one of the collars trying to take it off a piece of tubing with a wrench (had absolutely no choice) I am well aware just how thin the plating is. As much as these babies cost there is no excuse for plating this thin. imho. 2cents.gifwink.gif
I think that anyone who has LRT and can show that they are affected by this issue should get a coupon on their next purchase of PrimoChill tubing. Running straight distilled should not leach the plasticizer out of the tube under normal operating temperatures. typer.gif
~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

Yea thats true... But i didn't have any chipping on the actual barb the tool worked fine there but the outer ring is think plating which is not acceptable and the tool just doesn't sit right.
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This is what i have been doing here at this thread to convince everyone to stop using Primo chill tubing because this is not acceptable. This stuff can harm your components but wont wait to see it. My advice to you is using Durelene tubing Only in clear, if you want to be red get Meyhems Dye check out this thread you may like it. but please don't said you hate Dye before you check out this thread first.
Primo chill LRT Red with Cream cheese inside tongue.gif

How long did you run this before it started happening? I have the same tubing. I'm switching the tubing out at the end of the month though.
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Ummmm I think you're forgetting the inner portion when you use the tool to tighten the fitting to the block. If it chips there (pretty sure mine didn't though) then you surely will have a problem. I think as long as you're careful you shouldn't have an issue but the next time I use my tool, I will be putting a bit of tape on the ring and the fork to cover my azz and make absolutely sure. After putting a minor scratch in one of the collars trying to take it off a piece of tubing with a wrench (had absolutely no choice) I am well aware just how thin the plating is. As much as these babies cost there is no excuse for plating this thin. imho. 2cents.gifwink.gif
I think that anyone who has LRT and can show that they are affected by this issue should get a coupon on their next purchase of PrimoChill tubing. Running straight distilled should not leach the plasticizer out of the tube under normal operating temperatures. typer.gif
~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

Yea thats true... But i didn't have any chipping on the actual barb the tool worked fine there but the outer ring is think plating which is not acceptable and the tool just doesn't sit right.

Yeah I was a bit disappointed with the depth of the notches and the flimsiness of the tool. I can't say it's actually flimsy but it definitely felt like it bent when I had to apply torque to get the collars to mate up with the threads. There really is nothing you can do about that either. I think that the tool should be a tad thicker and the notches a touch wider with a little more depth to them too. Otherwise I really like them. Just hoping that my barbs don't flake or peel given the thinness of the plating. thinking.gif

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The chipping on the fittings is on the outer ring from the tool that you use. This will not cause any problems with the block as it doesn't come in contact of your acutally loop just the outer tubing. On my monsoons the only parts that ship is on the outer compression where you have to use the tool to tighten the compression down.

Maybe it varies with color, but my black monsoons didn't even chip there. I tightened them as much as I could and had no issues. I was a little gentle with how I put the tool in the notches, but I thought that was just common sense.
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Well they have taking out the ingredient causing the clouding. I forgot what it was and i can't be bothered checking, it was the ingredient that made the tube be able to FLEX so good, so now it don't flex the same, but it fixes the clouding and the tubing is more clear.
I guess the system scrubber might remove the ingredient too. My Primochill tubing feels stiffer now. But they are crystal clear, even clearer than the new ones. tongue.gif
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