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I have started a new thread dedicated to submitting data for the investigation i mentioned earlier, feel free to post data their, on this thread or to: tube.clouding.survey@gmail.com
Data submission thread
Everyone is more than welcome to submit data, to be able to determine anything, it is just as important to get data from people who have perfectly clear tubing.
Use this form, (if you dont have the data for some parts, just write "no data":
1: is your tube slightly clouded, clouded, clouded to the point where it fully blocks vision or not clouded.
2: which metals are present in your loop (not from biocide, so no silver from killcoil or cobber from Nuke)
3: What material do your resoir consist of: acryl, something else, or you dont use one.
4: what kind of tube do you use: plz state as detailed as possible including brand, size, subtype and aproximate date of purchase.
5: what coolant do you use
6: which biocide do you use (list killcoils here)
7: which dyes do you use
8: any other additives
9: for how long have the system been running with the current tubes
10: average ambient temperature in the room where the Pc is
11: water temp during runtime
12: flushing method: tap water, tap water then distilled, tap + distilled with weak acid (vinegar or citric acid), filtered water, no flushing
13: did you reuse any parts from a previous build (state which)
14: corrosion: any signs of corrosion
15: Ph of coolant:below 6, 6 to 8, above 8.
I hope this will produce some statistical evidence.

Perhaps, here's a good start. Please Contribute! - OCN WC Tubing Database. It's been collecting data for almost a year now. Might not have all the data you want, but still worth looking.
post #1872 of 3087
Durelene



Here is the tubing since ???? and before removed and cleaned with cotton rag and a wood stick with soap.


Left tubing Durelene with plasticizer raze inside
Right New Durelene tubing




Right to Left

New tubing - Used tubing after had been cleaned with cotton rag and wood stick , Used tubing with Plasticizer/haze



Durelene with Distilled water. Left to right

New tubing
New Used tubing after cleaned with cotton rag and a wood stick with soap.
Used tubing with Plasticizer/haze



same order, but how those tubing looks better ?




but here you can see it better but i changed the order left to right

Used tubing with Plasticizer/haze
New tubing
New Used tubing after cleaned with cotton rag and a wood stick with soap.



r


I Had to bring it to a dark background to see it better and here is the proof. Left to right


Used tubing with Plasticizer/haze
New Used tubing after cleaned with cotton rag and a wood stick with soap.
New tubing

Over here you can see the plasticizer/haze much better but when its wet you almost cannot see it only if you put a new or a
cleaned tubing side by side. Now is time to know how long Durelene toke to get like this. My tubing was changed on 7/31/12 Post #1154 http://www.overclock.net/t/1199158/plasticizer-problems-discussion-gallery/1150#post_17827918
running Distilled Water with Mayhems Pastel Ice White.








PS : keep in mind my rig was running Distilled water with Mayhems Pastel Ice White, Durelene has prove the durability. even running under premix and die, the plasticizer/haze is not noticeable whem the tubing is wet. like I said above only side by side with new tubing.

Now is BHD wil only run Distilled water with Mayhems Biocide. for the next final test in very heave load.




Thanks for all you guys support and let's keep this thread clean objective with this problems thumb.gif
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post #1873 of 3087
Fantastic post. Thanks for all that info. I'm tearing down my loop in a week or so and will post some results of some 3 month old Masterkleer and Durelene
post #1874 of 3087
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Originally Posted by skyn3t View Post

Durelene
Here is the tubing since ???? and before removed and cleaned with cotton rag and a wood stick with soap. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Left tubing Durelene with plasticizer raze inside
Right New Durelene tubing Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Right to Left
New tubing - Used tubing after had been cleaned with cotton rag and wood stick , Used tubing with Plasticizer/haze Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Durelene with Distilled water. Left to right
New tubing
New Used tubing after cleaned with cotton rag and a wood stick with soap.
Used tubing with Plasticizer/haze Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

same order, but how those tubing looks better ?


but here you can see it better but i changed the order left to right
Used tubing with Plasticizer/haze
New tubing
New Used tubing after cleaned with cotton rag and a wood stick with soap. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


r
I Had to bring it to a dark background to see it better and here is the proof. Left to right
Used tubing with Plasticizer/haze
New Used tubing after cleaned with cotton rag and a wood stick with soap.
New tubing
Over here you can see the plasticizer/haze much better but when its wet you almost cannot see it only if you put a new or a
cleaned tubing side by side. Now is time to know how long Durelene toke to get like this. My tubing was changed on 7/31/12 Post #1154 http://www.overclock.net/t/1199158/plasticizer-problems-discussion-gallery/1150#post_17827918
running Distilled Water with Mayhems Pastel Ice White. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




PS : keep in mind my rig was running Distilled water with Mayhems Pastel Ice White, Durelene has prove the durability. even running under premix and die, the plasticizer/haze is not noticeable whem the tubing is wet. like I said above only side by side with new tubing.
Now is BHD wil only run Distilled water with Mayhems Biocide. for the next final test in very heave load. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Thanks for all you guys support and let's keep this thread clean objective with this problems thumb.gif


Looks like Im going to wait on purchasing some Duralene frown.gif

Sticking with the Primochill blue stuff for now.
post #1875 of 3087
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Originally Posted by wermad View Post

At least the color looks better plasticized biggrin.giftongue.gifwink.gif

Foreground is a new piece of Primochill UV blue and in the back is one that has plasticized. I prefer w/ the look of the plasticized one biggrin.gif

LOL! funny biggrin.gif
post #1876 of 3087
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LOL! funny biggrin.gif

Yeah biggrin.giftongue.gif

The film has actually turned blue due to the Mahyems dye and i think that lends to the blue color of the tube. I just hate the original purple-looking uv blue. I had to use a new piece of tube so its gonna look like that for a few weeks before it turns the nice looking blue plasticized color.


It is hilarious that there's some positive from this whole ordeal wink.gif.
post #1877 of 3087
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Fantastic post. Thanks for all that info. I'm tearing down my loop in a week or so and will post some results of some 3 month old Masterkleer and Durelene

Please do. We need as much data we can get thumb.gif

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Originally Posted by wermad View Post

Looks like Im going to wait on purchasing some Duralene frown.gif
Sticking with the Primochill blue stuff for now.

you don't have to wait just buy it and change it. I like I said before this is one of the best cheap clean tubing around with so much durability around.
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LOL! funny biggrin.gif

I does looks way better with the white cream cheese inside some how the color kind sparkling in your rig shines way better. but it does hurt your hardware.
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Originally Posted by wermad View Post

Yeah biggrin.giftongue.gif
The film has actually turned blue due to the Mahyems dye and i think that lends to the blue color of the tube. I just hate the original purple-looking uv blue. I had to use a new piece of tube so its gonna look like that for a few weeks before it turns the nice looking blue plasticized color.
It is hilarious that there's some positive from this whole ordeal wink.gif.

some of you just make me lachen.gif like a little kid sometimes. wink.gif..



PS: I almost forgot to let you guys know about the Mayhems Pink UV dye that i used with Durelene after all this time the tubing turn out all pink. I never did cleaned it but i still have it in hands. I may be doing it tonight and see how it goes and post back. called haze+pink dye LOL.
Edited by skyn3t - 11/12/12 at 3:00pm
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^^^ I have my liquid in a jug at the moment and no debris, no discoloration or pastel to it. At most some of the buildup is on the tips of the inner piece-barb of my comp fittings.


I might still place an order since its cheap anyways. How flexible is it btw?
Edited by wermad - 11/12/12 at 3:42pm
post #1879 of 3087
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Durelene
Here is the tubing since ???? and before removed and cleaned with cotton rag and a wood stick with soap...

Thank you for the detailed post. A few questions though, did you get a chance to open any of your blocks when you replaced the tubing? And, what (if any) sort of residue you found in the reservoir?

I'm running distilled with 5% corrsion inhibitor myself. So far the white haze is the only sign of problem the Durelene is giving (only visible when dry). Will give it time and report back in the next few months. smile.gif

Thanks, skyn3t.
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Thank you for the detailed post. A few questions though, did you get a chance to open any of your blocks when you replaced the tubing? And, what (if any) sort of residue you found in the reservoir?
I'm running distilled with 5% corrsion inhibitor myself. So far the white haze is the only sign of problem the Durelene is giving (only visible when dry). Will give it time and report back in the next few months. smile.gif
Thanks, skyn3t.


My rad was clean like day one both of my rad was very clean,I did used a very tiny flash light to look inside. I could not find anything bad build up/raze or anything around the threads to harm my hardware. CPU block was clean too not much to look inside all the fins was very clean, The only think i did found inside the CPU block is a little tiny peace of the Acetal from my Reservoir Base nothing else. VGA Block from the threads and how clean was the rest of my hardware I did not bother to open it. I can tell you for sure if i had anything wrong with Blocks and Rad I would find it in the threads of both of hardware. Thank God nothing has been found.
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