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post #21 of 2566
1/20/12 at 3:21am
@EasterEEL actually the flash is showing the reservoir to be a bit more opaque but in real life its the same color as it started out. The tubing on the other hand is definetly coated. After this happend the first time i flushed the entire loop thrice with Demineralised water. Would you reckon its still Plasticizer ??? or just overtreatment ???
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post #22 of 2566
1/20/12 at 4:23am
Well IMO plasticizer doesn't coat tubing like the original posters pictures. That fine white powder looks more like radiator flux, not plasticizer leech. My Tygon R3603 is leeching plasticizer but it doesn't look like that.

After six months I have slightly cloudy tubing and I think that is what you have got as well. What I can't tell from the pictures is if you also have coating building up and if so why yours is happening so quick.

I would be temped to re flush and change tubing it necessary then run with distilled water with one tiny drop of primochill liquid utopia. Run for a few weeks to see how it goes and if all is well then add the dye.

The point I would make is plasticizer leaching will eventually stop and in my case I expect to just end up with stiffer Tygon 3603 which is a bit cloudy which doesn't really matter as the green liquid will still look fine through it. When I re flush with new liquid it will no longer get significantly contaminated with plasticizer providing I don't change the tubing again. If I do change the tubing I will try and use tubing made for beverages etc without plasticizer (if I can afford it).
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post #23 of 2566
1/20/12 at 4:29am
im gonna change out the tubing and flush the system. im not gonna use Liquid utopia cause Mayhems Pastelle range already has Biocide and Anti-Corrosive in it so all one has to do is mix Distilled water and the dye in the proportions stated by Mayhem. The mistake i think i made was adding already treated Distilled water to the dye and that has overtreated the loop. Furthermore i think the distilled water i used before has been overtreated with liquid utopia. Am gonna change out the tubing next week as im adding a 140mm rad inplace off the 140mm Exhaust to better cool my 6870 CF setup.

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post #24 of 2566
1/20/12 at 4:38am
I think I'll be flushing my loops sooner then later to avoid any build up on the block pins. TY for all the info.
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post #25 of 2566
1/20/12 at 11:40am
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It's not flux. I flushed the rads heavily. It's only on the tubes and nowhere else in the loop that I can see. It is NOT copper sulfate, as I use PT Nuke PHN. This, however, was with no biocide. It was just a silver coil and distilled. The water in the res is perfectly clear. I flushed the old water out when I opened it up, and now it's running distilled, kill coil, and PT Nuke PHN on the same tubing (Too much going on to change it all out right now). The water that I drained from it was crystal clear. If it's not plasticizer, and I know it's not flux, you tell me what it is. That's the only explanation I can come up with. Either way, it's not hurting my temps, so I'm not that worried about it inside of black tubing. I was just showing it.
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1/20/12 at 12:01pm
I was doing some searching last night, and did find a few other reports of this same issue on both Primoflex black and clear tubing.
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1/20/12 at 1:21pm
Minor clouding, haze, film sure, but the inside turning white-off white is pretty odd. Especially for black tubing lol
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1/20/12 at 1:27pm
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It's like a fine powder when I wipe it. Very fine. It's odd and has to be something with the tubing.
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1/20/12 at 1:48pm
tsm106 mentioned that his blocks were corroding as the tubes clouded up. That may point to a capacitance issue in the loop itself caused by mixing metals without enough inhibitor to stop it.

I've run mixed and non-mixed loops and have only had problems when my inhibitor levels were off. Never tube clouding though, usually just light staining from my inhibitor additive.. I've run both clear and colored tubing also without issue, normally the Primochill stuff that you can pick up from Microcenter...
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