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post #2031 of 3087
here are some pics of the tygon E-1000. i put a couple of other tubes around it. Again, it has a little tint to it.
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Hey all. I just read through this entire thread( skimmed of some of the Primochill bashing ones). My eyeballs hurt. I just installed some Tygon E1000 a couple of weeks ago after seeing some white film in my black Tygon 3603. All is 1/2 x 3/4. I haven't seen much chatter about this tubing so I thought I would give it a try. I had to sell my first born to buy it though. I will post some pics later. The tube has a slight discoloration to start, but it still looks good after the two weeks. I used barbs and clamps to feel comfortable with the hold. The tubing is soft and "waxie". I am using distilled water with Mayham's dye and a kill coil. Blocks are EK copper, rads are swiftech QP, pump is a swiftech MCP655, res is XSPC acrylic. Fittings are all BP shiny silver and a couple of EK barbs that came with some past blocks.
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here are some pics of the tygon E-1000. i put a couple of other tubes around it. Again, it has a little tint to it.

Personally speaking, thanks for providing this info-imo, any CONSTRUCTIVE feedback is helpful, the more info we get based on FACTS, the more choices we have as consumers to make purchasing choices-good job bud thumb.gif

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Anyone try this pinesol rinse yet? I'll be upgrading/rebuilding my rig in a couple weeks and the plasticizer has spread into the radiator and presumably the pump. I'll be using new blocks and tubing, but was going to reuse those older, now contaminated parts....

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I'd be worried about the residue that PineSol would leave. I rinsed all of my gear with vinegar (let the vinegar sit for several hours), then flushed with hot tap water then flushed with distilled.
Also, I did this with the loop disassembled.


THe old adage, less is better is what i follow, when we start looking for 'off the road solutions', things get cloudy (excuse the overused pun redface.gif)

If it works great, but usually, if those methods go wrong, you usually end up in a position worse off than where you started-my opinion and nothing else, so i agree with pgdeaner on this issue.
post #2033 of 3087
Here's my Primochill Pro LRT before and after comparison:



Again, this is what it looked like when it was first filled:



This is what it looks like when plasticized, one week later:



What it looks like now after 3 flushes with vinegar and distilled water, while back to the same XSPC tubing from my previous loop. Not as clear as Pro LRT but I never had plasticizing issues whatsoever with XSPC tubing:



Edited by joejoe69 - 11/30/12 at 10:07pm
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post #2034 of 3087
You clean the full circuit ( including tubes) with vinegar? .or just the rads and the block?? The vinegar have clean the tubes?
Edited by ea3ot - 12/1/12 at 5:25am
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You clean the full circuit ( including tubes) with vinegar? .or just the rads and the block?? The vinegar have clean the tubes?

You could use it to clean the tubes as well, though, I wouldn't run it through a pump (no science to back it up, I just personally wouldn't). To flush, I typically use vegetable vinegar as it's not as intrusive. It's a good cleaning agent.

As for tubing, I still use Tygon. I think R3400 and I've never had an issue with clouding of the water in the loop at all. I've taken tubing off for upgrades or doing other builds and it's nice and clean on the inside. Like I've said before, Tygon is a food-industry grade tubing, and God knows how fast they'd be sued if people's Pepsi came out with plasticizer in it.
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You could use it to clean the tubes as well, though, I wouldn't run it through a pump (no science to back it up, I just personally wouldn't). To flush, I typically use vegetable vinegar as it's not as intrusive. It's a good cleaning agent.
As for tubing, I still use Tygon. I think R3400 and I've never had an issue with clouding of the water in the loop at all. I've taken tubing off for upgrades or doing other builds and it's nice and clean on the inside. Like I've said before, Tygon is a food-industry grade tubing, and God knows how fast they'd be sued if people's Pepsi came out with plasticizer in it.


Only difference is that Pepsi isnt served at 30c biggrin.gif
Edited by kkorky - 12/1/12 at 9:18am
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You could use it to clean the tubes as well, though, I wouldn't run it through a pump (no science to back it up, I just personally wouldn't). To flush, I typically use vegetable vinegar as it's not as intrusive. It's a good cleaning agent.
As for tubing, I still use Tygon. I think R3400 and I've never had an issue with clouding of the water in the loop at all. I've taken tubing off for upgrades or doing other builds and it's nice and clean on the inside. Like I've said before, Tygon is a food-industry grade tubing, and God knows how fast they'd be sued if people's Pepsi came out with plasticizer in it.


Only difference is that Pepsi isnt served at 30c biggrin.gif

LOL, well, that's true. I wonder... and sorry, I haven't read through this entire humongous thread, but has anyone done temperature tests with the tubing to see if that makes any difference?
post #2038 of 3087
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LOL, well, that's true. I wonder... and sorry, I haven't read through this entire humongous thread, but has anyone done temperature tests with the tubing to see if that makes any difference?

Sorry for the double post

Firstly i was kidding thumb.gif

Secondly, all i can really say to save you going through the whole thread, is that loop temps seem to be one of the variables that have an effect on tubing plasticizer deposits-the only concrete facts we have so far, is that certain tubing is more prone to suffering plasticizer deposits-i don't want to get into names, you can find out that just by reading a few pages back.

That having been said, Tubing that has suffered less plasticizer problems:

Durelene-currently seems to be the best performer, going on feedback provided.

Feser tubing

Tygon

Masteecleer


Apart from Durelene, the order of listing does NOT reflect one being better than the other.

Unfortunately, there are so many variables when it comes to a cooling loop, that concrete findings have not been made-that would take a company which is willing to invest alot of time and money into investigating the problem.

Whether the capital outlay to reach an honest unbiased opinion is worth investing in at the moment is debatable -imo, i think that until companies can see the possibilities of making huge profits on tubing, such research will not be carried out properly and independently.

On a closing note, Primochill have (or are) introducing any day now to the WC market their new tubing called LRT Advanced, hopefully their tubing will be one of those that does not present problems, but that will take at least 6 months after it is released for its performance to be ascertained-and that is because it will need to be used by a considerable amount of people willing to provide feedback, before a fair & unbiased review can be made.

Right now the words of the sponsored users are by no means enough to go on or to be trusted (again read a bit back and you will understand) wink.gif

But if you want to ship me a free NZXT switch 810, ill can become your sex slave lol!

(again a joke biggrin.gif)
Edited by kkorky - 12/1/12 at 9:46am
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snippy

Ah, well, thank you for the rundown. I was just wondering if temps had any effect, though I can see where you're coming from on obtaining concrete proof. Too many reservoirs, radiators, pumps, and blocks to sift through, not to mention additives like dyes or kill coils.

I'm not here to point fingers at any company either, I'm a consumer, enthusiast, and watercooler myself. I just want to be on the same page, and going through 220+ pages is not my idea of a fun time, lol.

Thank you for the information. And the S810 has been on sale a lot lately. Pretty cheap too. I think the egg had it for like 115 or something like that a week ago. Pretty cheap for that case.

Anyway, thank you for the info. +Rep.
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There's not many reports on Primochill's new Advanced LRT tubing, anyone have any actual experience with this tubing?
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