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I am not sure if anyone will be interested in that, but just recently I asked about Durelene and new Primochill tubing 2 UK water cooling companies I use and that was their answer to that:

Specialtech:
"We do plan on getting both listed in the near future, however do not have an ETA as we are awaiting these to come into stock with our suppliers."

C&C Central:
"Yes we will certainly be stocking the LRT, but I have no definite date at the moment.
I will let you know once we have more info."

That means we just need to sit tight and wait, retailers would like to sell them products they are just waiting for suppliers to get them in stock...
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So is the consensus still Duralene?
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After all the nice things I've said about PC, I ran their clear tubing (bought ~2 mos ago from PPCs) for 4 hours and it clouded almost instantly. Bye bye, back to PC green (bought 1 mo ago from Amazon) and its fine. confused.gif
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by She loved E View Post

After all the nice things I've said about PC, I ran their clear tubing (bought ~2 mos ago from PPCs) for 4 hours and it clouded almost instantly. Bye bye, back to PC green (bought 1 mo ago from Amazon) and its fine. confused.gif

PC = primochill?

my PC green has been fine for a year, too. it's strange, there must be some difference between the materials of the green and clear versions.
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Quote:
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PC = primochill?
my PC green has been fine for a year, too. it's strange, there must be some difference between the materials of the green and clear versions.

Either that or its from the old batch. Only the newer PRO LRT tubing has this problem. I have old primochill tubing that doesnt show any problems, right next to newer primochill tubing that has cream cheese on the inside. Both the same color and make, just different batches.

My tubing should be in tomorrow. Will let you guys know my first impressions.
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yeah, primochill. the difference is odd... i thought maybe its because you can't see thru the green as much but it doesn't have that cloudy look either.

I heard primochill has been sending newer stuff to ppl who complain so i'm gonna drop them a note.
 
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I received my 2 foot long Primochill Advanced LRT Tubing (clear) today, I will leave a piece under the hot tap water all night plus soak another piece is distilled water indefinitely. I'll report by end of day today, let the abuse begin.


Updated

Here are pictures of my Primochill's new Advanced LRT, the piece on the left was put in a coffie cup while under HOT tap water for 12 hours, can you tell which of the two clear pieces spent 12 hours in distilled water? I think it's safe to say that this new tubing is more resilient than any tubing before it if my memory serves correct, 12 hours under scalding hot tap water!




Edited by Systemlord - 12/6/12 at 11:31am
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12 hrs scalding water-thats alot of money to spend for heating in the name of research redface.gif


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I put this tubing through hot tap water (46C/115F) for quite a long time compared to previous testing, you may remember earlier what the old Primochill looked like after only a few hours seal in a medical jar with distilled water. We already have member's with more than three weeks using the new Primochill tubing without any signs of clouding, no brand of tubing has lasted this long without showing signs of clouding.

Not exactly true-but that's not the point i want to make;

1) firstly thanks for providing us with feedback with regards to your tubing (+1 rep) much appreciated.

2) 3 weeks is NOT ENOUGH TIME to base an informed opinion on.

Heat is only ONE of the variables that MAY cause plasticizer problems-lets not lose focus on the other variables.

3)Ive said it before, and ill say it again-its going to take a hell of alot more people using the tubing over an extended period of time before any proper conclusion can be made.

I know that everybody is eager to get good tubing, but an objective result cannot be attained unless we have a load of people using the new tubing for an extended period of time and providing feedback on their experience with the tubing-anything else is just sporadic feedback based on a few peoples ongoing 'home' experiments, and no self respecting company or user would base their choices or claims on such limited information.

I can see whats going to happen-10-15 people will say that they have no problems, and its going to catch on like wild fire, a small inconclusive test here, another over there and presto our problem has been solved......

-what happens though, if after a few months the tubing deteriorates? we will be left with a lot of angry consumers, or self apologetic users saying things like 'well at least it lasted longer than the old tubing'. ie compromising to cover their initial comments.

The idea is to get tubing that lasts a reasonable length of time without presenting problems isn't it?

All im saying is slow down people-noone more than myself wants this tubing to work, but i wont allow myself to become optimistic after a few weeks of usage in a few peoples rigs (all of the above is MY opinion, nothing else).

That having been said-each to their own smile.gif


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the clouding issue is the same as the white plasticizer issue or they two different things? , ive never used clear tubing yet, i had the colored uv tubing.. so far i might order duralene but if the new Advanced LRT tubing wont have the plasticizer issue il use that, its much clearer

All tubing suffers from some form of clouding or Haze as others like to call it-that is different to the 'cream cheese' deposits that plasticizer shows.
Edited by kkorky - 12/6/12 at 6:32pm
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meh id rather see it run in a system for a month, thats how long it took my masterkleer tubing to shed its plasticizer...
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12 hrs scalding water-thats alot of money to spend for heating in the name of research redface.gif

Not if he's leasing like I am. That's what's silly about SoCal utilities IMO. Lots of apt's here only have 1 meter for the entire building so the landlords usually give out free water. Unfortunately its 4x more in electricity here than it was for us in Washington state. Left practically everything on all night (ie. 2 computers, fall asleep with TV on without using sleep mode, lamps, etc.) back in Seattle and our power bill never exceeded $50 per month.
    
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