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Has anyone flushed a Hardware Labs radiator before and if so was there any debris?


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Originally Posted by Systemlord View Post

Has anyone flushed a Hardware Labs radiator before and if so was there any debris?

I have with the SR-1 models. They did have some debris, but not a lot. Mostly small black specs that came out when rinsed well. What I did was boiled some water, poured it into the rads, plugged the holes and waited 10 minutes for it to sit and loosen. Then I drained a little out, plugged the holes again and shook really good. Repeated about 5 times and they were fine with no trace. Last rinse was with distilled water.

NOTE: I used HOT stove gloves to handle due to heat from the boiling water.
post #2233 of 3087
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Originally Posted by feniks View Post

my silver k8ill coil looked same covered with some yellowish sediment when I used it with XSPC kit (Dual Bay res 750LPH) and xspc clear tubing which in fact looked exactly same crappy as yours does. water was clean, but it had a distinct smell to it, can't say what it was, but I as well flushed all components with vinegar and distilled water and cleaned the kill coil with a brush.
just an idea ... if you are using a Dual Bay res with 750 X2O pump as I did in past ... do you see a yellowish water line in it? I think those pumps are not sealed well and corrode over time and that yellowish sediment start circulating in the loop staining the tubing to the greenish-yellowish clouded tint and making the silver kill coil look like it does. I am not sure, but maybe X20 750 pump contains some aluminum parts making contact with water, perhaps that's what causes the galvanic corrosion over time? not sure.
I still use the same silver kill coil and plain distilled water now with Feser Tubing and a D5 Strong pump, so the only components that are same (when compared to original XSPC kit) are radiators and block, and zero problems. just a though. besides XSPC tubing clouds over time on its own, just saying what *might* have happened to the coil.

The main problems that people seem to complain about in those bay reservoirs is the appearance of dead spots which leads to stagnant water(yes even with D5 x 2 it can happen) where the water does not circulate properly-that may be responsible for what you are describing. (De-aeration/bleeding is also a problem but thats another matter completely)

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Originally Posted by PepeLapiu View Post

Okay, so no way I am going to read the whole thread.
But is there a consensus on at least one good brand of tubing
Are there any tubing known not to leach out plasticizer?

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Originally Posted by 02ssei View Post

Strange how it is hit or miss. My buddy had black specks come out of his AX480, but I had nothing in my EX360 and RX240.

Thats more than likely radiator flux (debris left behind within the radiator after the manufacturing process)-the quote below is an excellent way to deal with that problem, or you can go OTT, and use the filter setup in Systemlord's photo and flush the rads out that way-but imho thats severe overkill-still does a great job nevertheless, in fact the best job thumb.gif.

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Originally Posted by HiTekJeff View Post

I have with the SR-1 models. They did have some debris, but not a lot. Mostly small black specs that came out when rinsed well. What I did was boiled some water, poured it into the rads, plugged the holes and waited 10 minutes for it to sit and loosen. Then I drained a little out, plugged the holes again and shook really good. Repeated about 5 times and they were fine with no trace. Last rinse was with distilled water.
NOTE: I used HOT stove gloves to handle due to heat from the boiling water.

Good man-way to go.
That way you avoid problems afterwards.
Little tip to those flushing rads (btw this rad issue is way off topic so im not addressing it again wink.gif)

Get a glass bowl and empty out the rad that you are cleaning/flushing into it, then hold the bowl up against a dark/light or similar background and you will be able to clearly see if there is any residue left, many times minute particles are not easily visible .
Edited by kkorky - 12/23/12 at 3:45am
post #2234 of 3087
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The main problems that people seem to complain about in those bay reservoirs is the appearance of dead spots which leads to stagnant water(yes even with D5 x 2 it can happen) where the water does not circulate properly-that may be responsible for what you are describing. (De-aeration/bleeding is also a problem but thats another matter completely)

possibly the water line was just that, a dead spot, because it was in such area that looked like no water movement ever. adding that to some radiator residue (not flushed initially) and probably that explains it all smile.gif
post #2235 of 3087
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Has anyone flushed a Hardware Labs radiator before and if so was there any debris?

My GTX 560s had a ton of debris in them. I recommend giving a generous amount of time in flushing your rads. Still had some debris after draining my system to redo the loop.
    
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Strange, I flushed my UT60 for like an hour with boiling hot water over and over and never had anything come out. I haven't broken down my loop since I first installed it, so we'll see if anything broke loose during use the last 4 or 5 months.
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Didn't have anything come out of my Monsta 360s. I have a new one incoming, and I'll let you guys know if that has debris inside or not.
post #2238 of 3087
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I have with the SR-1 models. They did have some debris, but not a lot. Mostly small black specs that came out when rinsed well. What I did was boiled some water, poured it into the rads, plugged the holes and waited 10 minutes for it to sit and loosen. Then I drained a little out, plugged the holes again and shook really good. Repeated about 5 times and they were fine with no trace. Last rinse was with distilled water.
NOTE: I used HOT stove gloves to handle due to heat from the boiling water.

Did you ever use vinegar + hot distilled or just very hot distilled?
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Okay, so no way I am going to read the whole thread.
But is there a consensus on at least one good brand of tubing?
Are there any tubing known not to leach out plasticizer?

Speaking of consensus, what are the general thoughts on using ether-based polyurethane tubing? I've been in contact with FreelinWade about having a 100ft. batch of their Fre-thane tubing made in 7/16 X 5/8. They can produce it in many colors and even provided some nice samples to prove it. The only issue, however is the price at $4.25 per foot. It's pricey, but not compared to some of the other components we're all throwing in our rigs.


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Okay, so no way I am going to read the whole thread.
But is there a consensus on at least one good brand of tubing?
Are there any tubing known not to leach out plasticizer?

For this, I refer you to a post I made earlier to someone else who felt they should be able to get somebody to provide a succinct answer.
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Because the opinions are almost as varied as the brands of tubing available. What one person swears by, another ridicules. There is also a reluctance to, yet once again, attempt to sum up this thread for someone who has not been following it. I could tell you what I am using, however, it would just be recreating what has been said many times already, and others will have to do the same to support their viewpoint.
I suggest you do a search of this thread using different brand names, such as duralene, advanced, feser etc and read the information presented and make up your own mind.
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