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Yes, from Sidewinder

I have Duralene from Sidewinder also, but mine only looks like his new install and I've had it in for 9-10 months.
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So I have looking at this thread for a few days now to determine which tubing to purchase. Yes, 1st timer in h20 here....with all the pics I have seen regarding clear tubing....I feel that I am leaning more towards Primochill Advance LTR Clear. Going to be using Mayhem X1 Blood Red. Any final thoughts on this....Pulling the trigger by this friday... Thanks.
 
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I have Duralene from Sidewinder also, but mine only looks like his new install and I've had it in for 9-10 months.

Mine lasted only a month. Strangely, primochill lrt uv green is still holding perfectly! Could be old stock from many, many months ago since it could be a less desired color.
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So I have looking at this thread for a few days now to determine which tubing to purchase. Yes, 1st timer in h20 here....with all the pics I have seen regarding clear tubing....I feel that I am leaning more towards Primochill Advance LTR Clear. Going to be using Mayhem X1 Blood Red. Any final thoughts on this....Pulling the trigger by this friday... Thanks.

I would personally get red hose and forget using a dyed coolant will discolor tube over time
But from what I know the selection you have made is an excellent choice you have made
I guess it is a personal preference.
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I would personally get red hose and forget using a dyed coolant will discolor tube over time
But from what I know the selection you have made is an excellent choice you have made
I guess it is a personal preference.

Am I also to assume that going with clear tubing is just like the silicon lottery???? You might get a bad batch that may start to fog up within weeks or might get a good batch and not fog up in several months....I mean I can handle the latter as I am OCD about cleanliness...I figure I will be cleaning loop within 8-10 months...I am just wanting tubing without plasticizer....I have yet to see or hear that Primochill Advance LTR fall into this category. I know that Tygon has plasticizer free tubing. If Tygon is my only choice then I will go with that....Thoughts????
 
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You'll be fine going with a clear tubing and distilled water and a Mayhem dye. Not a fan of the colored tubing, mainly because I've heard them having more issues with clouding and plasticizing. Haven't heard anything negative about the Mayhem dye, it's been all positive feedback and recommendations, and seems to last quite a long time!

Tubing that absorbs the color is not a big deal, since you won't notice it until you drain the loop and there's no adverse affects. I know tubing should be replaced every so often (1-2 years or problems start to appear) due to the possibility of cracking and "drying out" and the same thing with coolant, should be drained and replaced the same time as the tubing.

I know my Dad hasn't replaced the tubing on his Corsair Nautilus watercooler since he got it, think he got it back in 2006 and come to find out that he's been using a jug of drinking water to top it off every once in a while. May have to take a look at that for him so nothing goes wrong in the future.
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New Alphacool tubing-i cant vouch for it-i just got sent the update from Alphacool thumb.gif

http://www.alphacool.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=AlphaTube%20HF%2013/10%20%283/8%22ID%29&

It says that it is manufactured in the States, but obviously does not specify which manufacturer.
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Am I also to assume that going with clear tubing is just like the silicon lottery???? You might get a bad batch that may start to fog up within weeks or might get a good batch and not fog up in several months....I mean I can handle the latter as I am OCD about cleanliness...I figure I will be cleaning loop within 8-10 months...I am just wanting tubing without plasticizer....I have yet to see or hear that Primochill Advance LTR fall into this category. I know that Tygon has plasticizer free tubing. If Tygon is my only choice then I will go with that....Thoughts????

I have heard that the Tygon plasticizer free is quite stiff but I have never tried it for myself.
I believe all clear tubing will show the Clouding or staining over time, where colored will hide it.
I believe there is so little about the true plasticization in the recent tubing i.e. chunks of tubing breaking off .
A little discoloration /clouding with clear tubing will probably be unavoidable over time and will probably be an aesthetic rather that of a actual problem.


I feel that I am leaning more towards Primochill Advance LTR Clear. Going to be using Mayhem X1 Blood Red.

I would give this as a good choice again I would use it

All comes down to personal preference I used Masterkleer red tubing because I watered down my coolant and wanted red hoses rather pink tongue.gif
water has the best thermal conductivity for coolant and too much glycol/coolant will slightly decrease the viscosity over water.
I have 3 rads and 3 water blocks on one loop with one pump so I paid much more attention to viscosity and thermal conductivity.
if it were 2 rads and 2 water blocks I wouldn't have worried about this.
Edited by feznz - 3/28/13 at 2:58pm
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Am I also to assume that going with clear tubing is just like the silicon lottery???? You might get a bad batch that may start to fog up within weeks or might get a good batch and not fog up in several months....I mean I can handle the latter as I am OCD about cleanliness...I figure I will be cleaning loop within 8-10 months...I am just wanting tubing without plasticizer....I have yet to see or hear that Primochill Advance LTR fall into this category. I know that Tygon has plasticizer free tubing. If Tygon is my only choice then I will go with that....Thoughts????

I currently use Mayhems X1 transparent and the old back primochill pro lrt. In about a month i intend to change the tube to Advanced lrt and use new mayhems x1 liquid.

I would recommend not to use mayhems x1 for more than 6 months and use the red advanced lrt tube with no additives.

By the way, mayhems ultra pure water with kill coil caused quite a galvanic corrosion to my silver shiny bitspower fittings in the past! I did not use galvanic corrosion inhibitors as i should!
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