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post #31 of 3087
Just an FYI on this-

I did some basic testing with distilled water only and distilled and a killcoil in a loop for 1 week at a time, running 24/7. Killcoil in the loop caused more 'cloudiness' than when it was not present. Also, I noticed that when the killcoil is closer to the pump and/or PSU, there appears to be a bit more reaction with how cloudy the tubing becomes.

All in all, the hypothesis was if an electomagnetic field causes ionization of the silver, leading it to cause cloudiness. If anything, it does appear to be possible, but cloudiness appeared on tubing inner walls regardless if killcoil was in the loop or not.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/269759-29-experiment-kill-coil-electromagnetism-cloud-tubing
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This worries me a bit because I just purchased some black Primochill and I was only going to run a kill coil.
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This worries me a bit because I just purchased some black Primochill and I was only going to run a kill coil.

I don't believe we've seen anything other than coated tubing at this point. It doesn't seem to be causing any gunk or blockage issues. Seeing as the black tubing is not transparent, it won't ever be visible until you pull the tubing out of the loop. I wouldn't worry about it much.
 
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Raging Bull, do you still have the old tubing you used? I used Ice Dragon Cooling nanofluid + Mayhems the tubing did start to cloud within a few weeks. However after draining the loop and letting the tubing dry the clouding disappeared. So in my case it definitely wasn't plasticizer.

I've been using the same tubing now for over a year. Every build I just let the tubing dry. Then give it a light brush cleaning.

I also do not think the film on the tubing is plasticizer. Buy some Tygon R3603 or other Tygon and you'll see what plasticizer looks like within a couple of weeks. It also gums up blocks, there would be a nasty residue in most of your blocks.
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@lowfat i do have the old tubing but i cleaned it out with tissue paper and its relatively clean. Would you suggest replacing the old tubing when i flush my loop. Im planning on putting a 140mm rad on the exhaust port so i have to drain and change my tubes out anyway..... The white stuff on the old tubes came off pretty easily with tissue paper being pushed through it..... I have a feling it might be the overtreated Distilled water i used.
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when i change my tubing out ill take some pics to show everyone what it looks like. I'm pretty sure it will have the same coating as last time. Just realised it could be a bad batch of tubing i got. i had initially ordered 10M off the tubing and used all off it to build my first loop as well as replace the tubing after it clouded up. i recently ordered another 10m off tubing hopefully this will not cloud up as quickly as before. I understand tubes cloud but within a span off 1 week is a bit shocking !!!smile.gif
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Either way, it doesn't appear to be anywhere but the tubes. Nothing on the blocks, nothing in the res. Again, I don't think it's anything that's gonna hurt anything, but I figured people might like to see.
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Could it be the anti-microbal coating failing rather than plasticizer?
 
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post #39 of 3087
Maybe I'm a little paranoid, but I can't imagine putting anything other than pure, distilled water (and a coil) in my loop.

I'm not surprised by any of this. Any minute fault, reaction, etc. between an additive and tubing gets blown into exponential proportions (as we've seen in the thread) when you're running the same water through the same loop for days/weeks/months on end.
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Jackofhearts, You obviously did not see the part about this happening with only distilled and a kill coil for two weeks. Try again.
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