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Took apart my loop, found this inside..

Red / Blue Mayhem's dye, Silver Coil, Primochill Pro LRT clear tubing..

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Tubing cut.. The substance is not "gui" at all, more like a "powder" feel, a simple touch scrapes it.
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I have since then flushed out everything in my loop and now using Primochill Pro LRT Red and Blue tubings w/ silver coil only.. Lets see where that goes.. biggrin.gif

Added pics of the blocks, clean as the day I installed them... also note add: The previous loop was only 3 months old..

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Edited by frank anderson - 4/17/12 at 11:00am
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did it leave the same film inside your blocks also? or just the tubing?
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did it leave the same film inside your blocks also? or just the tubing?

Just the tubing, I forgot to post pics of the block, will do so now, Thx..
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I decided to just go straight distilled. No additives no silver killcoil. Only running Copper Brass and Nickel anyway so Killcoil probably would have been overkill. I have it, just am not using it.

GLW your fresh tubing frank. Hope things work out for the best. smile.gif

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I decided to just go straight distilled. No additives no silver killcoil. Only running Copper Brass and Nickel anyway so Killcoil probably would have been overkill. I have it, just am not using it.
GLW your fresh tubing frank. Hope things work out for the best. smile.gif
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No type of PT Nuke either? I'm doing the same thing with pure distilled water and a couple drops of Dead Water. Plasticizer has appeared in my tubing, but it is very very light and has not thicken like the pictures above. I'm using UV Blue tubing from Masterkleer.
    
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No type of PT Nuke either? I'm doing the same thing with pure distilled water and a couple drops of Dead Water. Plasticizer has appeared in my tubing, but it is very very light and has not thicken like the pictures above. I'm using UV Blue tubing from Masterkleer.

I already confirmed with multiple tests even 1 drop of Dead water will destroy the clear tubing in a matter of 2 to 3 days. I did this test multiple times. And every time it destroyed the tubing.Longest it last with Dead Water was 3 days.

So i would avoid and Copper Sulphate additive at the moment .

Just some advice is all.
   
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Day one with the Watts tube and so far so good thumb.gif
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Lol i know i was looking at them cards like 10 times now thinking the same drool.gif
   
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I decided to just go straight distilled. No additives no silver killcoil. Only running Copper Brass and Nickel anyway so Killcoil probably would have been overkill. I have it, just am not using it.
GLW your fresh tubing frank. Hope things work out for the best. smile.gif
~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

No type of PT Nuke either? I'm doing the same thing with pure distilled water and a couple drops of Dead Water. Plasticizer has appeared in my tubing, but it is very very light and has not thicken like the pictures above. I'm using UV Blue tubing from Masterkleer.

Nope. Nothing. Straight up Wal-Mart brand Distilled and nothing else. smile.gif

Of course my tubing isn't opaque so take it for what it's worth. No sunlight shines into my system so no worry about natural light building up algae in the loop. The only bit of Nickel I have in my system is my FC block and there is zero aluminum in the loop. Thought about it and just figured there is no need for my killcoil. thumb.gif

Yes those CARDS are right dead secsi with their copper panties showing. tongue.gif

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Ok guys after all the testing i did and eliminating 1 thing at a time from the Loops and flushing the 4 Rads to death (3 different brand Rads)

Here are the results. I am making this short and sweet and will do a full write up on it later!


I discovered from my testing regardless if people want to debate it distilled water flushes did absolutely nothing at all!

Biocides containing Copper sulphate accelerated this problem but wasn't the problem. Nor kill coils.

Did a Vinegar flush immediately followed by many gallons and days of flushing with Steamed distilled water before starting new tests.

Tubing clouding or whitening whatever you would like to call it slowed down after the %5 acidity Distilled vinegar or below Flush followed by days of distilled water flushing.

But was still there Longest tubing lasted 4 days so every single test the tubing failed in 4 days or less running only distilled water and i went through Loads of distilled water and loads of tubing!

Here is what you all seen a million times before. And the whole thing i am trying to help solve which many just spit out BAD TUBING and call it a day without testing anything!

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Looks very Familiar don't it? Well you can flush your rads to death with distilled and this is what you will still see. Believe me when i say if you knew haw many different times i changes water flushed changed rads you name it the results were always the same.(Photo's above)


Just so you all know when i did the Distilled water flushes not much came out of the rads. but when i did a quick Distilled Vinegar flush this is how pretty the stuff that looked came out. Remember these are brand new rads .Just out of the box and flushed for days with distilled water before trying the Vinegar flush!"" 4 Rads 2 used for roughly close to a year and other 2 brand new out of the box.Same results!""

and isn't that pretty :

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So here is where the Last and final test comes in place which finally rules the tubing being the Problem out!

Very strange loop i had to set up to do this Test because the pump was to powerful .

Any way loop consisted of "Only" 1 Dual Loop Reservoir , 1 Pump , Primochill Clear Tubing and all matching Nickel Compression fittings and Steamed distilled water!

Nothing else at all ! i had to loop the tubing back through both sides of the reservoir because the pump was to powerful to go through only 1 loop with nothing else but tubing.

Here is setup (Funny looking thing but whats needed to accomplish this test:)

Only things used for this testing! Same batch of clear also. (I had tons of it)


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First as i did every test i am flushing the Tubing itself to make sure it is clean.Straight into a bucket and dumped (Yes i spent a fortune in 2 months on distilled water just to try and help solve the issue)

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Tubing day one.

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Just showing had to loop through both Sides of the res to keep the pump from going to fast and sucking air: (Single loop)

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Here is my funky test setup for now. All new testing equipment is one the way.

Tubing test Day 1 !

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As you can see the Tubing is brand new and crystal clear at this point (still day 1)

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Finally Day 4 !! " I Think i Found the Problem Dear Watson! "

Day 4 and not even the slightest amount of clouding.Tubing finally looks as it should .Just like it cam from the Package.By now every other test the Tubing showed slight clouding later on day one and by day 3 to 4 was total trash!

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As you can see there is nothing wrong with this Tubing! It is as brand new and clear as the day i put it in the loop!


So finally Success ! After months are heartache and more testing then you could ever imaging !

So i found the Problem finally!


So now is where we ALL have to come together and find a solution.

Please if you come here to TROLL with no proof of testing i will ignore the post .But if you are here to actually try and help solve the issue my ears are wide open.

Tubing and water samples are being sent to the Labs for testing. The first lab testing is where we found biocide ,Flux and silver in the water!

Now these samples of tubing from the last few tests and the final one are going out to be tested also.

dont know about you guys but i want to know what that green stuff is.And i don't believe its the Flux any more i think its something else.

Sorry but i am not going to mention where the problem lies in this Post but if you look and read and think of the last thing eliminated from the loop it is pretty obvious where the problem Lies.

So please as a community with a passion for water cooling. Can someone with a chemistry background give some help from this pint on and tell us what is causing the tubing to could. And its not 1 brand of tubing doing it.Its just most people buy 1 certain brand because its nice tubing!

I am not being paid or endorsed in anyway to do this testing besides i received some free tubing scraps to test with.The rest was all done and paid for by me to help the community Solve this issue.Because i don't know about you guys but i want to run clear tubing again and not worry!


Hope this this answers allot of un answered questions and again this is only the problem now we need a solution.

So lets do it guys! I have all new test equipment on the way and will try any suggestions?

1 thing we need is a better way to get Rads completely clean inside.

2 another nice thing might be a preventive chemical that just prevents the reaction. ( I am no chemist i cant help with this part)

last thing we need is more people's input on a solution.


I have Photos of tons of the testing and can make a huge post somewhere but its rather pointless until we have a solution to fix it. Also 2 manufacturers are also working on a solution that i know of for sure right now.And thats the labs that test the tubing and water i send out.


I really hope this helps you guys get started on some solution.But for me this is super exciting news this is 100% Proof that we are looking for the problem in the wrong place. It is not the tubing that is the issue!

Take care and please read this whole thing through before commenting on it. ( Yes there is probably bad spelling and yes there is most definitely bad Grammar) But who cares . We now know the tubing stays clear until a certain piece of hardware is added to the loop!


Progress fells so good Finally! band.gif

Take care my Friends and talk soon

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Edited by mybadomen - 4/20/12 at 4:34pm
   
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