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Perhaps I have missed it in this thread as I might have skipped few pages over the life of this thread, but has this occurred also if using the car antifreeze ? It's sort of intended for preventing corrosion so while its not as effective for heat transport as distilled perhaps it could prevent this green ooze forming.

Assuming this thing is not going to react with the tubing. As far as I understand antifreeze is usually mix of 50% distilled and 50% ethylene glycol where ethylene glycol competes with water molecules for the hydrogen bonds and thus suppressing corrosion (both regular and galvanic) and also dragging the freezing point down to about -35C.

Just an idea I'm not particularly strong in chemistry.
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Hmmm . isn't CLR supposed to be very safe? If so i think i might try using that as a flush on a test Rad. I don't see why i couldn't leave CLR in overnight and flipping the rad ever few hours?
Do you have any more info about CLR?
and thanks

Have not checked the ph level of clr, you should maybe check it with your new ph kit undiluted and diluted. Would imagine it is 2-4 times stronger than vinegar at 5% acetic acid solution, but only the numbers will tell for sure.
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Most weaker acids will do the same thing provided they are diluted to the same acidity. Flushing generously with warm water is the most important part, Green oxidation happens with acid solution if not cleaned carefully.Look at roofs of old buildings, oxidation from acid rain and naturally occurring corrosives turn them green. Diluted CLR would probably work as well, Have you tried to check for Lead content in solder that holds rad together. Lead may leach out a small amount causing a small amount of clouding as well, some countries have not embraced the use of lead-free solders yet. ps master plumber for 35 years and have designed and built hydronic systems with as many as 24 loops, just under 2 miles of 1/2 inch tubing. Best of luck with your testing and hope you get some good results ! bike.gifmario.gif

So that's why the Statue Of Liberty is green, always wondered why. Anyhow is it safe to mix distilled water and vinegar using a Laing D5 Vario that has stainless steel inner body for cooling of the pump? I'm not 100 percent sure it's stainless.

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So that's why the Statue Of Liberty is green, always wondered why. Anyhow is it safe to mix distilled water and vinegar using a Laing D5 Vario that has stainless steel inner body for cooling of the pump? I'm not 100 percent sure it's stainless. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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When copper turns to green, its called patina smile.gif. Its basically an oxidization surf (like rust on iron).

You ever noticed this greenish color on building roof shingles? Yup same thing as the Statue of Liberty thumb.gif
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When copper turns to green, its called patina smile.gif. Its basically an oxidization surf (like rust on iron).
You ever noticed this greenish color on building roof shingles? Yup same thing as the Statue of Liberty thumb.gif

Cant wait to get my 2 new test setups!
This CLR thing i think might do the trick. I have used it before and remember it was amazing. And i highly doubt it would hurt anything in the Rad. Obviously i would flush the hell out of it after will fresh distilled.

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Lot of my idea's are always crazy and controversial. That's what makes them fun! I love when people say you cant run that like that .Lol

Anyway Deadline is end of May and i start working May 1st in another State so omg its going to get hard.

If interested and haven't seen it here is my Mass Effect 3 build and you can see why i want this tubing clear myself also.But more then that i want the whole community to not have to worry about it.

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When copper turns to green, its called patina smile.gif. Its basically an oxidization surf (like rust on iron).
You ever noticed this greenish color on building roof shingles? Yup same thing as the Statue of Liberty thumb.gif

Sorry but your definition of Patina is not quite correct, Patina can be nearly any surface that has a texture or has been altered or has been resurfaced. Copper changing colour to green is the result of oxidization, it leaves a patina but the process is oxidization not Patina. bike.gif
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Sorry but your definition of Patina is not quite correct, Patina can be nearly any surface that has a texture or has been altered or has been resurfaced. Copper changing colour to green is the result of oxidization, it leaves a patina but the process is oxidization not Patina. bike.gif

Thanks for clarifying that. Patina is the end result of oxidation. Patina does happen on other metals too, like brass. As I mentioned its like rust.
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This week end I warm vinegar flush my new rad and did a couple of rinse with distilled and shake it by hand, then I hook my 2 EX rad with a home depot pump and they tubing( watt I think) ,, lets it run like 12 hour each rad. Then I wash the pump with ditilled and use another bucket and new tubing and lets each rad do a 20 hour each rad.

Guess what? both Tubing I use before and after final rinse have some plasticizer not a lof but its visible.

I want red primochill but the red is out of stock so I end up with black one... so im pretty sure the platicizer will be there.. hope we will have a fix before I switch to the red one.
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This week end I warm vinegar flush my new rad and did a couple of rinse with distilled and shake it by hand, then I hook my 2 EX rad with a home depot pump and they tubing( watt I think) ,, lets it run like 12 hour each rad. Then I wash the pump with ditilled and use another bucket and new tubing and lets each rad do a 20 hour each rad.
Guess what? both Tubing I use before and after final rinse have some plasticizer not a lof but its visible.
I want red primochill but the red is out of stock so I end up with black one... so im pretty sure the platicizer will be there.. hope we will have a fix before I switch to the red one.

So both before and after had equal amounts of plasticizer?
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