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Is xspc high flex worth a crap? Id like to know, since the raystorm extreme kits come with the stuff...
    
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Originally Posted by AddictedGamer93 View Post

Is xspc high flex worth a crap? Id like to know, since the raystorm extreme kits come with the stuff...

The stuff that came with the Rasa crapped out immediately. I'm not certain if XSPC used the same tube with the Raystorm kits of if they have updated it (after many complaints with the Rasa kits).
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Is xspc high flex worth a crap? Id like to know, since the raystorm extreme kits come with the stuff...

The stuff that came with the Rasa crapped out immediately. I'm not certain if XSPC used the same tube with the Raystorm kits of if they have updated it (after many complaints with the Rasa kits).

I'll second that, Rasa stuff was crap.
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Probably the xspc flex tubing I don't think that's the same junk as in the the rasa kits..
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Another Story of this dreaded issue.

Hey All,

I recently finished my TH10 build. (see Intel build log section)
Well I wasn't really happy with my Koolance Res so I decided to change it out and use a External mounted pump mount and stand alone Res. During this process I drained the loop and pulled my Res out and had to re-route some tubing. In the process I was shock to find what I did.

I came across this while film inside my tubing and after some research I found it to be Plasticizer in my tubing. Now this loop as been only running for MAYBE 3 weeks total. The fuild I used was NEW and everything was flushed before I installed into my rig with distilled water. Did a good search and came across this thread. Wish I would have seen this sooner, and now knowing that it was a common problem with Primochill Tubing. Now I am really at aw and Now I am afraid.. So in the next coming weeks I am now going to have to tear down my TH10 Rig so I can change out the tubing. Also I will now need to take my water blocks off and make sure I give them a good cleaning. Rads also... Man what a PAIN in the a$$. Just a heads up for those using this tubing. I might have gotten a bad batch.

I have used this tubing in my 700D before and never encountered this problem. So based on what I have read its a hit or miss depending on batch you buy.

Here some pics of how my tubing looks like when I cut it in half.

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By solara2xb at 2012-05-26
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By solara2xb at 2012-05-26
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Originally Posted by solara2xb View Post

Another Story of this dreaded issue.
Hey All,
I recently finished my TH10 build. (see Intel build log section)
Well I wasn't really happy with my Koolance Res so I decided to change it out and use a External mounted pump mount and stand alone Res. During this process I drained the loop and pulled my Res out and had to re-route some tubing. In the process I was shock to find what I did.
I came across this while film inside my tubing and after some research I found it to be Plasticizer in my tubing. Now this loop as been only running for MAYBE 3 weeks total. The fuild I used was NEW and everything was flushed before I installed into my rig with distilled water. Did a good search and came across this thread. Wish I would have seen this sooner, and now knowing that it was a common problem with Primochill Tubing. Now I am really at aw and Now I am afraid.. So in the next coming weeks I am now going to have to tear down my TH10 Rig so I can change out the tubing. Also I will now need to take my water blocks off and make sure I give them a good cleaning. Rads also... Man what a PAIN in the a$$. Just a heads up for those using this tubing. I might have gotten a bad batch.
I have used this tubing in my 700D before and never encountered this problem. So based on what I have read its a hit or miss depending on batch you buy.
Here some pics of how my tubing looks like when I cut it in half.
img4297copy.jpg
By solara2xb at 2012-05-26
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By solara2xb at 2012-05-26

Wait a second here!
From what i ve read all these months within this thread, this white powder is not a real issue. Its actually a cosmetic issue, since it does not affect the flow and It can be found only at the tubes walls and NOT in the radiator or fittings or pumps. In about a week i will change the Mayhems Ultra Pure water of my loop after 6 months of use and will also check my Primochill lrt black and UV blue (around 4 meters of tubing).

I will have a look at my cpu , northbridge blocks as well and only if i find deposits there i will start thinking of cleaning my MORA rad. I would suggest you to do the same thing! Bythe way, my innovatek filter became slightly yellowish with few black plastic particles after all these months ofuse. Most probably this yellowish colour is silver ions and/or flux from the radiator. No white deposits on it whatsoever and absolutely no flow difference based on my koolance flowmeter reading!

So, i would suggest you not to get disappointed unless you see that your cpu block has such powder as well, in which case its easily removable (the rad cleaning at least for my case would be an issue).
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Originally Posted by solara2xb View Post

Another Story of this dreaded issue.
Hey All,
I recently finished my TH10 build. (see Intel build log section)
Well I wasn't really happy with my Koolance Res so I decided to change it out and use a External mounted pump mount and stand alone Res. During this process I drained the loop and pulled my Res out and had to re-route some tubing. In the process I was shock to find what I did.
I came across this while film inside my tubing and after some research I found it to be Plasticizer in my tubing. Now this loop as been only running for MAYBE 3 weeks total. The fuild I used was NEW and everything was flushed before I installed into my rig with distilled water. Did a good search and came across this thread. Wish I would have seen this sooner, and now knowing that it was a common problem with Primochill Tubing. Now I am really at aw and Now I am afraid.. So in the next coming weeks I am now going to have to tear down my TH10 Rig so I can change out the tubing. Also I will now need to take my water blocks off and make sure I give them a good cleaning. Rads also... Man what a PAIN in the a$$. Just a heads up for those using this tubing. I might have gotten a bad batch.
I have used this tubing in my 700D before and never encountered this problem. So based on what I have read its a hit or miss depending on batch you buy.
Here some pics of how my tubing looks like when I cut it in half. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
img4297copy.jpg
By solara2xb at 2012-05-26
img4298copy.jpg
By solara2xb
at 2012-05-26

This issue is getting old and I'm tired of hearing member's say that Primochill is actually doing testing to find the cause, well it's about time and how much longer are we going to have to wait? I'm surprised Primochill hasn't bothered to comment on this clouding issue right here in our forums...?
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Originally Posted by solara2xb View Post

Another Story of this dreaded issue.
Hey All,
I recently finished my TH10 build. (see Intel build log section)
Well I wasn't really happy with my Koolance Res so I decided to change it out and use a External mounted pump mount and stand alone Res. During this process I drained the loop and pulled my Res out and had to re-route some tubing. In the process I was shock to find what I did.
I came across this while film inside my tubing and after some research I found it to be Plasticizer in my tubing. Now this loop as been only running for MAYBE 3 weeks total. The fuild I used was NEW and everything was flushed before I installed into my rig with distilled water. Did a good search and came across this thread. Wish I would have seen this sooner, and now knowing that it was a common problem with Primochill Tubing. Now I am really at aw and Now I am afraid.. So in the next coming weeks I am now going to have to tear down my TH10 Rig so I can change out the tubing. Also I will now need to take my water blocks off and make sure I give them a good cleaning. Rads also... Man what a PAIN in the a$$. Just a heads up for those using this tubing. I might have gotten a bad batch.
I have used this tubing in my 700D before and never encountered this problem. So based on what I have read its a hit or miss depending on batch you buy.
Here some pics of how my tubing looks like when I cut it in half. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
img4297copy.jpg
By solara2xb at 2012-05-26
img4298copy.jpg
By solara2xb at 2012-05-26

Wait a second here!
From what i ve read all these months within this thread, this white powder is not a real issue. Its actually a cosmetic issue, since it does not affect the flow and It can be found only at the tubes walls and NOT in the radiator or fittings or pumps. In about a week i will change the Mayhems Ultra Pure water of my loop after 6 months of use and will also check my Primochill lrt black and UV blue (around 4 meters of tubing).

I will have a look at my cpu , northbridge blocks as well and only if i find deposits there i will start thinking of cleaning my MORA rad. I would suggest you to do the same thing! Bythe way, my innovatek filter became slightly yellowish with few black plastic particles after all these months ofuse. Most probably this yellowish colour is silver ions and/or flux from the radiator. No white deposits on it whatsoever and absolutely no flow difference based on my koolance flowmeter reading!

So, i would suggest you not to get disappointed unless you see that your cpu block has such powder as well, in which case its easily removable (the rad cleaning at least for my case would be an issue).

As long as it stays a powder it is harmless, but my problem came from the mix of the powder and dye. The flakes will normal turn to dust under any pressure like going through the cpu block or the pump, this is the powder we are all seeing.

BTW vinegar will clean up the rads.
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As long as it stays a powder it is harmless, but my problem came from the mix of the powder and dye. The flakes will normal turn to dust under any pressure like going through the cpu block or the pump, this is the powder we are all seeing.
BTW vinegar will clean up the rads.

So, from what you are saying,iunderstand that the combination of the dye and the powder is capable of getting the powder off the tube walls and create a mess, otherwise with simple plain distilled water the powder can be found only at the tubes walls, correct...?
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As long as it stays a powder it is harmless, but my problem came from the mix of the powder and dye. The flakes will normal turn to dust under any pressure like going through the cpu block or the pump, this is the powder we are all seeing.
BTW vinegar will clean up the rads.

So, from what you are saying,iunderstand that the combination of the dye and the powder is capable of getting the powder off the tube walls and create a mess, otherwise with simple plain distilled water the powder can be found only at the tubes walls, correct...?

No you'll still get it every where but it's so fine it normally won't clog the blocks. I wouldn't run the tubing long term like this, I'm sure it doesn't help you temps if it gets too thick. Make sure you flush your rad with hot vinegar, some say it helps keep it from happening. When I cleaned up my rad I thought I might as well flush my old ones that I ran for about a year and flushed with hot water for 20-30 mins each. Both had this blue color stuff come out of them, it could have just been tarnish but a lot of other crap came out of them too.
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