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Originally Posted by joesaiditstrue View Post

bought some pH/TH/TA/CYA test strips at walmart
my pH level is ~6.5-6.8 which is on the low end. I haven't chopped up any of my tubing to test for plasticizer issues but Mayhem's said higher pH could trigger this right? so try to keep a lower pH?
All I'm using is 1 Kill Coil and Pure Distilled water (~1.7 L of water)

i always have used kill Coil in my loop but sadly its wont prevent plasticizer.
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Originally Posted by squick3n View Post

I think at this point Primochill is no longer an option. For color it's either dyes or LEDs

for long time
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Originally Posted by aqualad View Post

I'm still stuck here with over 6-7 feet, and from all that Ive been reading its like these manufactures/distributes are just turning a blind eye to whole fiasco.
This is my first WC setup and it has not been a pleasant ride so far hopefully your suggestion will yield better results for me.
Thanks for the help
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Originally Posted by wermad View Post

i just got done draining my loop. and sadly this new primochill is plasticizing frown.gif. I've only ran distilled but the color is solid enough that the whitish/grayish film doesn't affect appearance.

mad.gif time to find another tubing.
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Originally Posted by nawon72 View Post

Keep your pH above 7.0 (alkaline) if you want to minimize corrosion, as more hydrogen ions (lower pH) promotes oxidation. You should aim for a pH of 8-10 except if there is aluminum in the loop, in which case keep it below 8.5. However, your pH is typical of distilled water.
Info from here

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Originally Posted by nawon72 View Post

I didn't know, so I Googled it. It's definitely not a good idea as it will rapidly corrode copper, and I believe it can be use to strip nickel plating. I would avoid using even a tea spoon of it just to be safe, and look for alternatives to increase the pH of your loop.
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Wow 15 hours, Primochill doesn't really care if they go out of business, they probably already have and we just don't know it yet!

you may be right
Not to mention but after i seen they website again still looks so poor to me, i don't want to start any war and trolling and pointing who has done bad things with us ( consumers ), look who are they partners. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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I just ordered this tubing last for my both loop
Durelene PVC tubing 7/16in. ID 5/8in. OD by Saint-Gobain
434
For the next few days I'll be doing some tests with those tubing to see how fast the Tygon R-3603 can cloud and how Durelene can hold this test and i will post back.

Durelene PVC tubing - tap water
Durelene PVC tubing - Distilled Water
Durelene PVC tubing - Distilled Water + Mayhems - Red Dye
Tygon R-3603 - tap water
Tygon R-3603 - Distilled Water
Tygon R-3603 - Distilled Water + Mayhems - Red Dye
Edited by skyn3t - 6/12/12 at 7:22pm
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Originally Posted by squick3n View Post

I think at this point Primochill is no longer an option. For color it's either dyes or LEDs

Has anyone in this thread tried dyeing your clear tubing, instead of buying colored tubing or adding dye to your water? Like this.
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Originally Posted by cpachris View Post

Has anyone in this thread tried dyeing your clear tubing, instead of buying colored tubing or adding dye to your water? Like this.

Plausible, but why would you go through all that trouble? Plus, you run the risk that it will stain the internals of your loop. Keep it simple and just go with colored tube. This plasticizing issue has not affected a loop's performance, just looks when using clear tube.
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Originally Posted by cpachris View Post

Has anyone in this thread tried dyeing your clear tubing, instead of buying colored tubing or adding dye to your water? Like this.

I would say it's the way to go, since if people begin posting their results consistently we'll soon have a database that will allow people to get any color they want. I'm curious to see which tubings take dye better than the rest too.
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doh.gif sorry double post
Edited by jinsoup - 6/13/12 at 10:35pm
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Be sure to post pictures when you get it, and I'll do the same.
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Originally Posted by opt33 View Post

Pictures and bend radius of Durelene tubing vs others are here. Looks like it is pretty clear to start, and bend radius with thicker 3/8 5/8 or 1/2 3/4 is decent.

Thanks for the input on the Duralene, and awesome article link +1 for helpfulness.




I'm on two koolance blocks so shouldn't have any green, except for the radiator is brass/copper...
it's going to be a long, long part-flushing weekend.. BLEH.
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Originally Posted by Martinm210 View Post

Yes, I always order my tubing from Sidewinder.
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/dupvctu7id5o.html
This is the exact stuff I ordered for the photo above which is the 7/16 x 5/8", but I've also has the same good luck with the larger 1/2" x 3/4" stuff.
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/dupvctu1idx3.html
You can't beat this stuff for the price:thumb:

Not to mention, the 1/2" x 3/4" is only SIXTY NINE CENTS per foot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I just got my 20 feet of Duralene + PT Nuke (CuSO4)

It is quite rigid compared to PrimoChill LRT, but so clear and not a fingerprint magnet.
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Some input based on actual experience. I shall state up front that I shall have to eat some crow in providing the info.

Tubing is Primochill LRT UV Blue purchased in Jab 12.

After 3 months in my dual loop system.

Loop 1 that uses distilled plus PT Nuke (probably too much). Heavy clouding. No pics as I have not drained the loop. I can tell from the outer appearance and by shining a light through it.

Loop 2, Distilled mixed 3:1 with Zalman G100. If there is any clouding, it is not discernible. Light shines through clearly.
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I will going to receive my Durelene clear tubing 7/16x5/8 today so I will have a long week in other to replace and do some test and fix z bit of my cable I may end up change some of my fittings in my new routing loop but I had drainedy loop last night and guess what the TYGON in my loop looks worse I didn't know if I laugh or crying about this clouding crap plasticity %&%% it is all f&%$%up i will post some pictures by today or tomorrow and l will try to take some natural pictures instead using flash so this way you guys will see how worse it is
Thank God all my parts are clean and neat no sign of anything i did a major clean up yesterday with warn water with pt nuck and i did ran about a gallon 1 1/2 of distilled water.
Edited by skyn3t - 6/14/12 at 9:35am
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I will going to receive my Durelene clear tubing 7/16x5/8 today so I will have a long week in other to replace and do some test and fix z bit of my cable I may end up change some of my fittings in my new routing loop but I had drainedy loop last night and guess what the TYGON in my loop looks worse I didn't know if I laugh or crying about this clouding crap plasticity %&%% it is all f&%$%up i will post some pictures by today or tomorrow and l will try to take some natural pictures instead using flash so this way you guys will see how worse it is
Thank God all my parts are clean and neat no sign of anything i did a major clean up yesterday with warn water with pt nuck and i did ran about a 1 1/2 of distilled water.

I may have to order some of that Duralene if you have good results with it. I am using some primochill 3/8" ID clear tubing, well it was clear for about 4 hours, lol. I traded for another h20 loop, and it includes some black 7/16" ID tubing, so at least I won't see the issue, I guess.

I don't understand what primochill did to their tubing. I had been using it last year with no problems, but the last three retail packs I've purchased have been junk.
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