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post #821 of 3087
I'm sorry to ask but is the plasticizers will in anyway cause the loop to fail or affect the performance of the loop or not?
If it's not harmful then I'll just get a pre-colored tube.
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post #822 of 3087
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Originally Posted by 7evenHeaven View Post

I'm sorry to ask but is the plasticizers will in anyway cause the loop to fail or affect the performance of the loop or not?
If it's not harmful then I'll just get a pre-colored tube.
It's pretty much just an aesthetic issue.
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Well in that case, why don't people just go with color-ed tubing biggrin.gif
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Well in that case, why don't people just go with color-ed tubing biggrin.gif
Some people prefer the look of clear tubing. Personally, I think clear tubing with Mayhem's Pastel coolant looks great.
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Well in that case, why don't people just go with color-ed tubing biggrin.gif

Maybe because we don't wan't colored tubing?
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Originally Posted by superericla View Post

Some people prefer the look of clear tubing. Personally, I think clear tubing with Mayhem's Pastel coolant looks great.

I'm actually pretty new with WC and I just purchased a RX240 kit for my CPU and a E240 rad for my GPU.
Nothing special expect for the Raystorm CPU & Universal GPU block (trying to save some money here as selling 2nd hand full block is pretty hard in my country) and with some compression fittings.

I would like to ask, won't the plasticizers get stuck around the O ring of the water blocks?
And should I just top-up the water occasionally or drain the system once for a long while and refill it again?

Thanks in advance!
Edited by 7evenHeaven - 6/19/12 at 10:32am
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@skyn3t every thing is on its way to you. Weve send pastel, X1, all our dyes, biocide and kill coil

http://www.specialtech.co.uk are supporting this as well by providing us with a samples of all the primochill range (tubing) they hold as well as tygon for testing at our end. Weve have stred testing Clearflex, Masterclear, XSPC and Thermochill all ready.

This will take us a little time to test our self as we have a lot going on atm but ill all so report any thing we find on here too.
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@skyn3t every thing is on its way to you. Weve send pastel, X1, all our dyes, biocide and kill coil
http://www.specialtech.co.uk are supporting this as well by providing us with a samples of all the primochill range (tubing) they hold as well as tygon for testing at our end. Weve have stred testing Clearflex, Masterclear, XSPC and Thermochill all ready.
This will take us a little time to test our self as we have a lot going on atm but ill all so report any thing we find on here too.

This is a very promising and highly respectful effort to achieve the best for your customers (like me smile.gif )

Thanks... will be looking forward for the results!
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Originally Posted by 7evenHeaven View Post

I'm actually pretty new with WC and I just purchased a RX240 kit for my CPU and a E240 rad for my GPU.
Nothing special expect for the Raystorm CPU & Universal GPU block (trying to save some money here as selling 2nd hand full block is pretty hard in my country) and with some compression fittings.
I would like to ask, won't the plasticizers get stuck around the O ring of the water blocks?
And should I just top-up the water occasionally or drain the system once for a long while and refill it again?
Thanks in advance!

If get the cloud film stuff in the tubing it will no going to get stuck and reduce your performance inside your rad, res, block and fittings. After my cloud film problem caused by the plasticizers I toke a part all my water blocks and fittings and it was clean like day one even my 60mm reservoir was crystal clear after the plasticizers. we all recommend use Mayhem's products it will never going to create any layer and crystalize inside the rad's and block's this for sure. but if you use any cheap Dye stuff it will create a massive plasticizers and with the long run it will start crystalize inside your loop.
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@skyn3t every thing is on its way to you. Weve send pastel, X1, all our dyes, biocide and kill coil
http://www.specialtech.co.uk are supporting this as well by providing us with a samples of all the primochill range (tubing) they hold as well as tygon for testing at our end. Weve have stred testing Clearflex, Masterclear, XSPC and Thermochill all ready.
This will take us a little time to test our self as we have a lot going on atm but ill all so report any thing we find on here too.

Thanks Mick , now I'm just waiting for the mail girl to knock in my door and hand over all the good stuff. wink.gif , and today i just start working in my bench test and put things together to be ready for all testing also my Main RiG ( Black Hawk Down ) so this way we all have two testing running at the same time.
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This is a very promising and highly respectful effort to achieve the best for your customers (like me smile.gif )
Thanks... will be looking forward for the results!
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stay tuned ElGreco, we will going to need you and everyone else here, we need to fill this Roller coaster because the loop of testing is about to began thumb.gif
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tubing has arrived from http://www.specialtech.co.uk we only need a small amount of it to test pic below ill start testing tonight each colour and let you know how it goes.

I wont be commenting on my thoughts as such just showing you pics and information as my comments are invalid

Left is tygon the rest on the right is Primochill we will get other manufacturers tubing as well.

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Test No 1 Tygon R3603

Start of testing preliminary results

+ Mayhems Ultra Pure water
+ Silver kill coil
Temp 40c (Not exposed to UV light)
TDS = 0.00
Conductivity = 0.005us

the mixer / Stirer will have no effect on these tests.

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Test 1 run for 3 Hours Results

Comparison Photo. Left New Tygon , Right Tygon after 3 hours.

Water TDS = 03.0 (+3 since start of test in 3 Hrs)

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Test No 2 Tygon R3603 (flask sanitised before test so no contamination moves across)

Start of testing preliminary results

Mayhems Ultra Pure water Only
Temp 40c (Not exposed to UV light)
TDS = 0.00
Conductivity = 0.004us

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Test 2 run for 3 Hours Results

Comparison Photo. Left New Tygon , Middle Test 1 Tygon (after wiping off plasticizer you can still see its cloudy) , Right Tygon Test 3 hours in ultra pure water.

Water TDS = 00.5 (+0.5 since start of test in 3 Hrs)

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Test No 3 Tygon R3603

Start of testing preliminary results

+ Mayhems X1 Clear Coolant (vegetable extract based + biocide + inhibitors)
Temp 40c (Not exposed to UV light)
TDS = 0.05
Conductivity = 0.03us

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Test 3 run for 3 Hours & 5 Hours Results

Picture below 3 hours test show no signs of leaching how ever ramping up the Heat to 45 c and 5 hours showed the leaching. (single eyebrow raised moment)

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TDS = 0.07 (after 3 hours) (40c) (thats the above pic) (the below pic is at 45c)

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TDS = 0.1 (after 5 hours at 45c) what is interesting is not the time frame but the temp difference seem to induce the process of leaching. Because between 0-3 hours no leaching was present yet at 3-5 Hours with a 5c increase in temp you could actually see the leaching happing and the water turning slightly cloudy. Note TDS is rising do to exposure to CO2 emission not due to plasticizer.

Test No 4 Tygon R3603

+ Unrealised Product Ethylene Glycol based (Pretty close to what some coolants use except ours has a patented technology.)
Temp 40c (Not exposed to UV light) / then 45c
TDS = 0.03
Conductivity = 0.04us

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Test 5 run for 3 Hours & 5 Hours Results

Below Tubing after 3 hours at 40c , TDS 0.06

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Below Tubing at 5 hours 45c (this is 3 hours at 40c + 2 hours at 45c) Added note - the tubing has deformed a little when going to 45c. The information on Tygon web site say this tubing is rated at 60c .. TDS 0.08

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This test is a 1 off to see what happened 8 Hours at 45c, The tubing has become extremely sticky to the touch. All so Noted That there is plasticizer stuck to the side of the glass in small amounts.

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Plasticizer stuck to the base of the glass. This is the best pic i can get of it but its defiantly there. This was not seen in any other test so far.

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Test No 5 Tygon R3603

+ Unreleased Product Propylene Glycol Based (used widely by many coolant makers)
TDS - 0.04
Temp 40c (Not exposed to UV light) / then 45c

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Test 5 run for 3 Hours & 5 Hours Results

Tubing after 3 Hours at 40c TDS 0.06

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Test No 6 Tygon R3603

+ Mayhems Biocide Extreme (Copper Sulphate being the main ingredient)

Test No 7 Tygon R3603

+ Asda DI water (we need to make sure that our ultra pure isn't the cause of the issue so introducing Other makers DI gives good compassion to make these tests none bias)

Test No 8 Tygon R3603

+Exposed directly to UV C light in a water chamber 100 watt light

Tested for 1 hour only (enough time to give a human sunburn badly)

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Test 8, 1 hour Results

No change what so ever

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Test No 9 Tygon R3603

+Mayhems Pastel Ice White

Conclusion for Tygon R3603

Work in progress
Edited by Mayhem - 6/21/12 at 7:56am
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