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Great Info... Thanks!
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I didn't notice a new post. Seems like you and skynet should coordinate on a new thread. This stuff is too important to be buried this deep in an existing thread
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Good lord, if I understand those results, that means the tubing goes bad as soon as there is heat involved? WOW......wth.gif
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tubing has arrived from http://www.specialtech.co.uk we only need a small amount of it to test pic below ill start testing tonight each colour and let you know how it goes.
I wont be commenting on my thoughts as such just showing you pics and information as my comments are invalid
Left is tygon the rest on the right is Primochill we will get other manufacturers tubing as well.
img2121jc.jpg
Test No 1 Tygon R3603
Start of testing preliminary results
+ Mayhems Ultra Pure water
+ Silver kill coil
Temp 40c (Not exposed to UV light)
TDS = 0.00
Conductivity = 0.005us
the mixer / Stirer will have no effect on these tests.
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Test 1 run for 3 Hours Results
Comparison Photo. Left New Tygon , Right Tygon after 3 hours.
Water TDS = 03.0 (+3 since start of test in 3 Hrs)
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Test No 2 Tygon R3603 (flask sanitised before test so no contamination moves across) Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Start of testing preliminary results
Mayhems Ultra Pure water Only
Temp 40c (Not exposed to UV light)
TDS = 0.00
Conductivity = 0.004us
tygontest2.jpg
Test 2 run for 3 Hours Results
Comparison Photo. Left New Tygon , Middle Test 1 Tygon (after wiping off plasticizer you can still see its cloudy) , Right Tygon Test 3 hours in ultra pure water.
Water TDS = 00.5 (+0.5 since start of test in 3 Hrs)
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Test No 3 Tygon R3603
Start of testing preliminary results
+ Mayhems X1 Clear Coolant (vegetable extract based + biocide + inhibitors)
Temp 40c (Not exposed to UV light)
TDS = 0.05
Conductivity = 0.03us
mayhemsx1.jpg
Test 3 run for 3 Hours & 5 Hours Results
Picture below 3 hours test show no signs of leaching how ever ramping up the Heat to 45 c and 5 hours showed the leaching. (single eyebrow raised moment)
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TDS = 0.07 (after 3 hours) (40c)
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TDS = 0.1 (after 5 hours at 45c) what is interesting is not the time frame but the temp difference seem to induce the process of leaching. Because between 0-3 hours no leaching was present yet at 3-5 Hours with a 5c increase in temp you could actually see the leaching happing and the water turning slightly cloudy. Note TDS is rising do to exposure to CO2 emission not due to plasticizer.
Test No 4 Tygon R3603
+ Unrealised Product Ethylene Glycol based (Pretty close to what some coolants use except ours has a patented technology.)
Test No 5 Tygon R3603
+ Unreleased Product Propylene Glycol Based (used widely by many coolant makers)
Test No 6 Tygon R3603
+ Mayhems Biocide Extreme (Copper Sulphate being the main ingredient)
Test No 7 Tygon R3603
+ Asda DI water (we need to make sure that our ultra pure isn't the cause of the issue so introducing Other makers DI gives good compassion to make these tests none bias)
Test No 8 Tygon R3603
Exposed directly to UV C light (need to set up a container for this though.)
Test No 9 Tygon R3603
+Mayhems Pastel Ice White
Conclusion for Tygon R3603
Work in progress



Mayhem Nicely and done. can't wait to see more. I'm very exited to start my testing in water loop.
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Good lord, if I understand those results, that means the tubing goes bad as soon as there is heat involved? WOW......wth.gif
Warrior1986 you got it right. Mayhem used the tubing lab and equipment for speed up some his test. I did all my test with long time term in emulate the warm water in contact with tubing. all my glass containers was left in my bay window just to get some part of the sun light ( shade light right beside my orchid ) just some part of the morning hours and all my result are very close like Mayhem lab test. i will post some pics tomorrow.
Edited by skyn3t - 6/20/12 at 10:51pm
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These test will take a long time to complete as we need to test as many different types of tubing it would be unfair to just test ones people have shown in this thread, we all so need to test every thing so that it is the same though out. The test are all so only showing the tubing in a glass flask and this is a little bit different to what the tubing has to put up with in a water cooling system as we all so have copper and plating as well.
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Watching this avidly. Thank you.
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Hey guys, just wanted to post an update that I just got the tubing I ordered a few days ago to be the guinea pig for. This stuff is looking REALLY promising.
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White background so you can see that it has a very minimal bluish tint to it.
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Considering how incredibly cloudy the 2001 tubing is (the only other tubing I know of that doesn't have plasiticizer in it), I was blown away by how clear this tubing is. Here's some text so you can the clarity/lack of cloudiness.
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The other interesting thing about is how incredibly low the durometer is on it. It's very floppy and flexible.
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Let us know how it holds up! I really need to find a reliable clear tube.
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Hey guys, just wanted to post an update that I just got the tubing I ordered a few days ago to be the guinea pig for. This stuff is looking REALLY promising. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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White background so you can see that it has a very minimal bluish tint to it. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Considering how incredibly cloudy the 2001 tubing is (the only other tubing I know of that doesn't have plasiticizer in it), I was blown away by how clear this tubing is. Here's some text so you can the clarity/lack of cloudiness. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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The other interesting thing about is how incredibly low the durometer is on it. It's very floppy and flexible.

It does looks very clear. thumb.gif today i had read a bit about this tubing and it does looks promising ( the price is a bit high $2.79 feet compared with some other brands ). but in terms of Plasticiser free is nice may be lets see how it going to hold up.
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Let us know how it holds up! I really need to find a reliable clear tube.

this time we all going to find a new tubing for sure thumb.gif .
Thanks for Mayhems for provide me all hes products for testing thumb.gif everything is in my way now so i will going to receive it anytime by next week. i just got all my container opened and review each tubing and making a note in everything and guess what























to be continued tongue.gif
tonight.
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Almost all plasticizer free tubing is more expensive. E-1000 in 1/8 thickness like 3/8 ID 5/8 OD or 1/2 ID 3/4 OD is $4+ per foot. There is also 2375 which is clear (unlike 2001), but again expensive $4 to $5 per foot range. Some will use thinner tubing, but i wouldnt just to avoid kinking or compressing tubing especially with dual pumps at inlet with soft E-1000 which is meant to be compressed via use with peristaltic pumps, though with 3/8 5/8 wouldnt have to worry. But 40-50 bucks just for 10 ft tubing, ouch. I am wondering if that is why primochill, DD, feser etc dont offer plasticizer free, even though the demand is there, cant do it at a competitive price in more popular tubing sizes.
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