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Quick rundown of my experiences: The clear tygon tubing is garbage, it clouds up in a week, no matter what you do (perhaps the new model fixes this). ALLL of that dye stuff is also garbage and should be pulled off of the market. It gunks up your blocks (and I guess now the tubing) within a week. Do not use it.
Edited by lloyd mcclendon - 6/23/12 at 2:46am
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ALLL of that dye stuff is also garbage and should be pulled off of the market. It gunks up your blocks (and I guess now the tubing) within a week. Do not use it.

Obversely you aint got a clue what your talking about.
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@Mayhem
In test #3 when you say TDS is rising due to CO2 emission, from where is the the CO2 coming? I assume you mean from the tubing?
BTW, before I retired I worked in a water bottling plant in the Lab. I did much water testing everyday including biological testing and Ion Chromatography (Ion Chromatography because ozone disinfectant react with bromides in water to develop bromate). I would suggest to validate your testing procedure to always use a "blank", in this case a known plasticizer free tubing I guess, run under the same conditions and in parallel as whatever else you're testing.
Best of luck to you, glad to see actual testing being carried out.
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Originally Posted by lloyd mcclendon View Post

Quick rundown of my experiences: The clear tygon tubing is garbage, it clouds up in a week, no matter what you do (perhaps the new model fixes this). ALLL of that dye stuff is also garbage and should be pulled off of the market. It gunks up your blocks (and I guess now the tubing) within a week. Do not use it.

You did used a very strong word's above. I think you must had a very bad experience with cheap stuff.

I agree with you on cheap tygon tubing but about Dye you are wrong and I can prove to you. If you use any cheap dye like primochill dyebomb for example it does crystallize in blocks and rad and it create wall inside of gunk everywhere the heat and conductivity in water cause the cheap stuff like dye bomb from primochill again create wall crystallize in certain time of use. The best dye out there is Mayhems it won't have any reaction with conductive in water and heat that cause the gunk in loop.

PS: Mayhems has some magic stuff on they mix and dye brother that's why he became the most respectful Dye in the market. thumb.gif he is the only company in the market that is here with us helping and create a better product everyday.
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@mandrix yeh we plan on doing that how ever as seen the test take a long to to do and we've created a septate thread now on the forum. we plan on testing All tubing we can get our hands on how ever this will take a few weeks, if not months to go though it all, The testing doesn't prove much tbh except that the heat alone can be a issue.

new thread here -> http://www.overclock.net/t/1272759/testing-tubing/0_20
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Almost all plasticizer free tubing is more expensive. E-1000 in 1/8 thickness like 3/8 ID 5/8 OD or 1/2 ID 3/4 OD is $4+ per foot. There is also 2375 which is clear (unlike 2001), but again expensive $4 to $5 per foot range. Some will use thinner tubing, but i wouldnt just to avoid kinking or compressing tubing especially with dual pumps at inlet with soft E-1000 which is meant to be compressed via use with peristaltic pumps, though with 3/8 5/8 wouldnt have to worry. But 40-50 bucks just for 10 ft tubing, ouch. I am wondering if that is why primochill, DD, feser etc dont offer plasticizer free, even though the demand is there, cant do it at a competitive price in more popular tubing sizes.

Superthane Ether can be bought for $0.58/ft to $1.38/ft in ten foot intervals there and is plasticizer free.

The pricing of tubing reminds me of the obscene price differences of buying small parts like screws, washers, grommets, spacers, and nuts. in four-piece packs at $1.50-$5.00 compared to some other brand/reseller where you can get 25/50/100pc cartons for $5-20~ and >1,000-10,000pc cartons for $30-100~. At equal or better quality.

I believe it comes down to the profit they take from every sell they manage to ring out of new and repeat buyers for tubing that costs them less than $0.20/ft at a markup of $1.50 to $5.00 per foot. That they have been getting away with for years even with cheaper alternatives at equal or better quality. Why should they break that stride now? rolleyes.gif
    
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Is this mainly a problem for people who have / want clear tubing because it clouds for them, or does this go into blocks etc causing problems for everyone?
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Quick rundown of my experiences: The clear tygon tubing is garbage, it clouds up in a week, no matter what you do (perhaps the new model fixes this). ALLL of that dye stuff is also garbage and should be pulled off of the market. It gunks up your blocks (and I guess now the tubing) within a week. Do not use it.

I used a coolant with green uv dye in it for 4 years without ever changing coolant once and NO blockages in anything.
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Well perhaps now there is a new dye on the market that would be an exception to my previous statement, which as I said, was purely a summary of my experiences. The feser uv green dye bricked my cpu block within a week and cost me $80. I've seen a number accounts from others using dyes that resulted in the same (or worse) destruction of the block. There are some scary pictures out there, all caused by dye (viewer discretion advised, seriously).

If mayhem's products do in fact solve that problem, then kudos to him.

Getting sligthly OT here though as the subject is tubing - even without any dye the tygon is not a good choice
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Is this mainly a problem for people who have / want clear tubing because it clouds for them, or does this go into blocks etc causing problems for everyone?

It can plug up water blocks too

http://www.markbeiser.com/Images/personal/WC/cloggedWB1.jpg

http://www.markbeiser.com/Images/personal/WC/cloggedWB2.JPG
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