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I was wondering...
a. How many people here have observed this powder somewhere else than their tubes?
b. Cleaning the powder would decrease the powder growth rate within the same tube, aka prefer to clean the same tubes instead of replacing them? At least until a final solution is found...
What do you think?

A couple people have found them in their blocks. I'm taking mine apart over the weekend to look as well. I've never seen the stuff in my reservoir, fwiw
post #892 of 3087
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I was wondering...
a. How many people here have observed this powder somewhere else than their tubes?
b. Cleaning the powder would decrease the powder growth rate within the same tube, aka prefer to clean the same tubes instead of replacing them? At least until a final solution is found...
What do you think?

in my opinion Durelene for now it's cheap and looks like it more durable than Tygon r3603 and Primochill, the amount of PVC in Durelene make the durometer I bit hard for some small bends but it's make the Powder cloud stuff out the tubing at least looks like it going to have long live than the others brands out there. I have to take some pics and show you guys what I'm doing in this past weeks. Every two days I drain a bit of water from my two RiG system and put a virgin tube beside the tube in my loop, I have so seem much difference in both tubes. A few post back I had showed how the powder stuff had grow in my tubing and how cooked was the tygon after I cleaned a peace inside and outside turned yellowish. If you going to build any loop and don't know what tubing to choose from I do recommend Durele its more cheap than any brand.

Ps: that's no such thing in cleaning tubing that had cloud powder stuff and reused it. How many $20 bucks you just dump with insignificant things each month. So buy new tubing and put it back or now you guys going to start recycle the tubing. No no do it right.
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post #893 of 3087
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Cut small piece from an old rag and push it through with what ever you have, or use a paintball squeegee. Granted it's something we shouldn't have to do every 1-6 month, but its cheaper than buying new tubing until someone finds a solution. Vinegar seems to clean it up very easy.

Mind also pushing that rag through each and every nozzle, pump, ans water block too?
Maybe it was just me that noticed white powder crap in my shiny blocks?

rags leave lint.

I wouldn't mind cleaning once every 6 months, but once a month is absurd. 3 months is the duration when ur supposed to routinely clean right?

I'm not saying it's the ideal thing but it can be done if needed.
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Ps: that's no such thing in cleaning tubing that had cloud powder stuff and reused it. How many $20 bucks you just dump with insignificant things each month. So buy new tubing and put it back or now you guys going to start recycle the tubing. No no do it right.

I agree do it right, but I'm sure many, including me did not plan on having to replace tubing every couple month, and for some a couple weeks. For me, every 6 months would be no big deal, but every other month is a little much. I will be going to copper tubing until there is some fix or someone finds tubing that will last more than 6 months min. In the long run it will be cheaper going copper, in fact it will pay for it's self in about a years time.
Edited by GoodInk - 6/28/12 at 12:45pm
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in my opinion Durelene for now it's cheap and looks like it more durable than Tygon r3603 and Primochill, the amount of PVC in Durelene make the durometer I bit hard for some small bends but it's make the Powder cloud stuff out the tubing at least looks like it going to have long live than the others brands out there. I have to take some pics and show you guys what I'm doing in this past weeks. Every two days I drain a bit of water from my two RiG system and put a virgin tube beside the tube in my loop, I have so seem much difference in both tubes. A few post back I had showed how the powder stuff had grow in my tubing and how cooked was the tygon after I cleaned a peace inside and outside turned yellowish. If you going to build any loop and don't know what tubing to choose from I do recommend Durele its more cheap than any brand.
Ps: that's no such thing in cleaning tubing that had cloud powder stuff and reused it. How many $20 bucks you just dump with insignificant things each month. So buy new tubing and put it back or now you guys going to start recycle the tubing. No no do it right.

Actually i have all my fittings in the 7/16-5/8 size and am not sure if Durelene has that size OR if its the right solution!

My loop has about 4meters of Primochill black and uv blue tubing and i have another 4m spare. I bought it in Dec 2011 and still havent found the time to check its condition.

Hopefully i will clean my loop within this month, so i was thinking what is best:
a.To reuse my old tubing after ceaning it IF this will cause lower powder growth rate
b.Use my spare primochill (same batch)
c.Buy something new (nothing seems a solid solution currently)

Since I ve spent more than 2000€ for my loop only, buying new tubes is the least of my problem! My problem is -lack of time- to experiment with new tubes OR to clean my MORA3 Pro 9x 140 rad and my 2x komodo 7970 blocks in case the new tubes have such huge powder issues!
Edited by ElGreco - 6/28/12 at 1:48pm
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Hopefully i will clean my loop within this month, so i was thinking what is best:
a.To reuse my old tubing after ceaning it IF this will cause lower powder growth rate
b.Use my spare primochill (same batch)
c.Buy something new (nothing seems a solid solution currently)

Well it might be old enough to be the good stuff, it seems something has changed with their tubing and doesn't seem to last as long as it used to. I really hope all this gets sorted out.
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Primochill white, 5 months. Just took it apart today.

20120628_001.jpg

If you go back to the first page you can see that my previous 6 month old black primochill only exhibited a little bit of this powdered plasticizer stuff...now the white tubing is just CAKED in. Oddly enough it is only on my fittings, my cpu/gpu blocks are perfect aside from a little oxidation.

Still waiting for a census on a good brand so I can replace everything redface.gif
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I've got white Primochill too.. when I've taken the loop apart I haven't seen anything on the fittings thankfully (or in the blocks from what I see) but I did see some in the res which came off easy enough with rubbing it. It's odd it's gone there without touching fittings etc though.
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Actually i have all my fittings in the 7/16-5/8 size and am not sure if Durelene has that size OR if its the right solution!
My loop has about 4meters of Primochill black and uv blue tubing and i have another 4m spare. I bought it in Dec 2011 and still havent found the time to check its condition.
Hopefully i will clean my loop within this month, so i was thinking what is best:
a.To reuse my old tubing after ceaning it IF this will cause lower powder growth rate
b.Use my spare primochill (same batch)
c.Buy something new (nothing seems a solid solution currently)
Since I ve spent more than 2000€ for my loop only, buying new tubes is the least of my problem! My problem is -lack of time- to experiment with new tubes OR to clean my MORA3 Pro 9x 140 rad and my 2x komodo 7970 blocks in case the new tubes have such huge powder issues!

They have all the sizes so no worries here is the link for you Durelene PVCi will suggest you to read more a bit here Plasticizer Problems / Discussion / Gallery - Page 75 you will going to read some very interesting post from a very respectful person Martinm210 that has been in our community for so long hes has more review done here than hair on hes head smile.gif Durelene 16 Months Old in a loop and still looks day 1

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Originally Posted by GoodInk View Post

Well it might be old enough to be the good stuff, it seems something has changed with their tubing and doesn't seem to last as long as it used to. I really hope all this gets sorted out.

It will never going to be sorted out, Primochill going down like BFG look the photos below
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Primochill white, 5 months. Just took it apart today.
20120628_001.jpg
If you go back to the first page you can see that my previous 6 month old black primochill only exhibited a little bit of this powdered plasticizer stuff...now the white tubing is just CAKED in. Oddly enough it is only on my fittings, my cpu/gpu blocks are perfect aside from a little oxidation.
Still waiting for a census on a good brand so I can replace everything redface.gif

This Tube and fittings above looks like old car battery when it start getting old and about to explode. mad.gif

This is not acceptable how a company has fallen a part and ruin they costumes like that, those pictures are the proof of Primochill tubing that have had call out our attention HERE IN THIS THREAD. We put so much time,love and money in our loop hardware to use this kind of tubing look how bad it is and people giving advice to still using it and clean it when its get bad.
How many people don’t know about this Plasticizes Problems
How many people still buying it and still recommending it to other?
after since the first post I still don’t believe that people still buying it and using it. come on people that’s no doughty how bad its become.

Now answer this question.

Would you buy a Maserati and use the cheapest gasoline when you run out and when we need the tire you go to a local Auto parts for some cheap Tire?
Me A: Hell Da **** NO. so this is your hardware what you going to do clean it ? tell how because i don't know i will love to know how you deal with it.


PS: Stop buying Primochill.

Agenesis : Thanks for posting your hardware thumb.gif
Edited by skyn3t - 6/28/12 at 5:44pm
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They have all the sizes so no worries here is the link for you Durelene PVCi will suggest you to read more a bit here Plasticizer Problems / Discussion / Gallery - Page 75 you will going to read some very interesting post from a very respectful person Martinm210 that has been in our community for so long hes has more review done here than hair on hes head smile.gif Durelene 16 Months Old in a loop and still looks day 1
It will never going to be sorted out, Primochill going down like BFG look the photos below

Thanks for your reply smile.gif
Martin, Skinnee, Bundymania, Gabe (swiftech), Mick (Mayhems) are some of the people i closely read and with some of them i ve also exchanged quite a few emails thumb.gif
I ve been following the thread you mention from the very beginning with great attention and eventhough i find it very imformative, i think that still we have not finalized what actually is the best tubing currently, if any. Durelene seems nice, but it still needs some test to go and it does not come in colored versions. I use about 4meters of tubing in my loop and i prefer my mayems ultra pure water to be as less as possible in contact with sunlight!
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Isn't the main issue here that most of the tubing used (tygon R3603 series and its derivatives) is not really intended for long term use with liquids. This is mainly tubing for gasses.


I'm going to try out norprene in my new build, that's a hose rated for fluids (it'll stand up to brake fluid), it definitely will not leech. Doesn't really help people looking for clear tubing though...
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