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post #951 of 3087
Here Am one more time with more result of Durelene.As you guys know i had this new tubing running for 2 weeks, 5 days = 19 Days ago post # 796 of 950. Like a promised a few post back new photos with result's

Result test of
Black Hawk Down
this is my main RiG.

450

Durelene PVC tubing 7/16in. ID 5/8in + Distilled Water + Silver Kill Coil

450

450

450

700

450

700

No Cloud and Plasticizes Found in this Tubing.


Result test of
RiG Plasticizer Test Bench
This system has been running for 1 week, 4 days ago = 13 days post #863 of 950

Durelene PVC tubing 7/16in. ID 5/8in + Distilled Water + Silver Kill Coil+Mayhems Red Dye

Plasticizer Test Bench ( as know HTPC 24/7 )

450

700

450

700

Draining the Loop just to check the cloud buildup smile.gif

700

I had write down my ocn nick in a white paper. can you read it ? thumb.gif

450

450

Now with Mayhems ReD Dye can you still read it ? thumb.gif

450

450

450

450

As you guys can see and read very clear none of cloud and plasticizes powder was found and are no visible in any part of my tubing. Its still clear like day 1.
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Thanks for the updates skyn3t. I'll also be installing some Durelene and hope it goes better. If not, I'll have to look in to all new fittings to go to 1/2-3/4 Tygon Tubing
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+1 Sky. I'm going to look for some Durelene tube to test out.
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Thanks for the updates skyn3t. I'll also be installing some Durelene and hope it goes better. If not, I'll have to look in to all new fittings to go to 1/2-3/4 Tygon Tubing

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+1 Sky. I'm going to look for some Durelene tube to test out.

smile.gif it does looks more promised than any other low price tubing out there so at least it holding up so good and my testing still running I'm waiting in some products to arrive this way i will have more things to run for testing purpose. I will be update all my test's once week for some real result's.
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Never fear! Durelene is here! biggrin.gif
I'll be replacing my primochill this weekend, will post my findings. Shout out to sidewinder for the fast shipping!thumb.gif
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Edited by Ovrclck - 7/4/12 at 6:35pm
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Never fear! Durelene is here! biggrin.gif
I'll be replacing my primochill this weekend, will post my findings. Shout out to sidewinder for the fast shipping!thumb.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Hey BGKris, Good Job Bud. Nice,smooth and clear. Make sure you do flush all your hardware very good

just in case
tools
Paper Towels
Vinegar ( be careful when and where you do use it )
Toothbrush
Distilled Water

Cleaning:
Yes you must initially clean all your blocks and parts, new or old. Cleaning takes a fair amount of patience. Remember, the less you rush in setting up your loop, the less problem?s you?ll have with it.



Link on the Effects of washing copper with Vinegar.

Update: On NEW Equiptment, all you need to do is rince the blocks with distilled water. Make sure the blocks are particle free.

On the Radiator, you need to heat the distilled water. The water does not need to be boiling, but it needs to be somewhere between that and hot. Heat the water to a boil, and let it sit for 2 min before you pour into the radiator.

Make sure you give the radiator a good shake, but be careful. The Radiator WILL GET HOT VERY QUICKLY with hot liquid inside it. After that give it a good rince with cold distilled and its good to go.

And no deionized is not distilled, and drinking water is not distilled. There is water labeled ?Distilled? that you need to purchase.
Edited by skyn3t - 7/4/12 at 7:48pm
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Originally Posted by skyn3t View Post

Here Am one more time with more result of Durelene.As you guys know i had this new tubing running for 2 weeks, 5 days = 19 Days ago post # 796 of 950. Like a promised a few post back new photos with result's
Result test of
Black Hawk Down
this is my main RiG.
450
Durelene PVC tubing 7/16in. ID 5/8in + Distilled Water + Silver Kill Coil
450
450
450
700
450
700
No Cloud and Plasticizes Found in this Tubing.
Result test of
RiG Plasticizer Test Bench
This system has been running for 1 week, 4 days ago = 13 days post #863 of 950 Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Durelene PVC tubing 7/16in. ID 5/8in + Distilled Water + Silver Kill Coil+Mayhems Red Dye
Plasticizer Test Bench ( as know HTPC 24/7 )
450
700
450
700
Draining the Loop just to check the cloud buildup smile.gif
700
I had write down my ocn nick in a white paper. can you read it ? thumb.gif
450
450
Now with Mayhems ReD Dye can you still read it ? thumb.gif
450
450
450
450
As you guys can see and read very clear none of cloud and plasticizes powder was found and are no visible in any part of my tubing. Its still clear like day 1.

Looks good and Nice Motherboard. Still only time will tell but great results so far. Also thanks you for the testing. Appreciated here. Also please keep us updated.

Thanks again Mate.

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Hey BGKris, Good Job Bud. Nice,smooth and clear. Make sure you do flush all your hardware very good
just in case
tools
Paper Towels
Vinegar ( be careful when and where you do use it )
Toothbrush
Distilled Water
Cleaning:
Yes you must initially clean all your blocks and parts, new or old. Cleaning takes a fair amount of patience. Remember, the less you rush in setting up your loop, the less problem?s you?ll have with it.

Link on the Effects of washing copper with Vinegar.
Update: On NEW Equiptment, all you need to do is rince the blocks with distilled water. Make sure the blocks are particle free.
On the Radiator, you need to heat the distilled water. The water does not need to be boiling, but it needs to be somewhere between that and hot. Heat the water to a boil, and let it sit for 2 min before you pour into the radiator.
Make sure you give the radiator a good shake, but be careful. The Radiator WILL GET HOT VERY QUICKLY with hot liquid inside it. After that give it a good rince with cold distilled and its good to go.
And no deionized is not distilled, and drinking water is not distilled. There is water labeled ?Distilled? that you need to purchase.

Thanks man! I'm not really looking forward to taking out the rx480. It was such a pain to put in. lol
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Hate to be the objective voice of reason but the linked experiment is 100% absofrackinglutely false.

If he wanted to do a proper experiment then he should put a piece of copper in the jar. Pour HOT vinegar into it shake it up good for how ever long you would shake a standard size 360 Radiator. Then take close ups of the copper surface using a digital Microscope.

Who the hell leaves vinegar in their Radiator for an hour at a time? NOBODY!; that's who! hmmsmiley02.gif

Didn't perform a rinse either from what I can see of the thread. And all these people goin on about how ACIDIC vinegar is? If you're using a 100% vinegar solution like Wine or Balsamic vinegar straight from the waste vat then yeah you don't want to use it. But standard white distilled vinegar is diluted with Distilled water down to ~5% by volume give or take ~1/100th of a percent or something along those lines. So basically you're cleaning out your system with Distilled water more than vinegar.

If you're worried about the acidic content of the vinegar, that's why you flush with 50/50 and then 100% distilled for twice the amount of any vinegar you use. Any vinegar molecules should be rendered inert by that amount of Distilled. If you still are leery run the last flush through tubing using a 5gallon bucket as a Reservoir

Oh and in case you weren't aware of it Ketchup is more acidic than vinegar and depending on the brand can contain SALT. Ala Heinz 57. Tomatoes are acidic. Heinz contains(in this order): Tomato concentrate from red ripe tomatoes, DISTILLED VINEGAR, HFC Syrup, SALT, spice, Onion Powder, Natural Flavoring.

Does anyone see where WATER is listed here? But yet people say use Ketchup to clean your blocks and that Vinegar is bad for Copper or any other metal besides Aluminum? stun.gif

Be leery, I understand the need to be leery. But if you can't use vinegar then forget Ketchup. It's at least twice as acidic as vinegar. At least Heinz 57 is. But what I find interesting here is people say "Use Ketchup" but aren't forthcoming with which they use. If you're like me and Heinz 57 is what you generally have in the cupboard that's what you reach for without a second thought.

Also happen to have Del Monte 100% natural on hand. Same ingredients except they add garlic powder at the end of the list.

If you can't use vinegar why the hell are you using and or recommending Ketchup? jealoussmiley.gif

Vinegar when used sparingly won't hurt a damned thing. I use vinegar to clean the kitchen all the time. It's safer than bleach and it's non-toxic. Kills any germ that I know of and it's safe for marble, granite, and tile countertops. I can see that a lot of you have zero kitchen experience or are just beginning to find your way round one unsupervised. tongue.gif

If you can eat white distilled vinegar on your fish an chips, I seriously doubt a 15minute flush with the stuff is going to hurt any metal it comes into contact with.

The level of disinformation in that thread based on a faulty outcome of a badly run experiment simply astounds me. Who flushes their radiator for hours? bigeyedsmiley.pngblinksmiley.gifthumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

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Looks good and Nice Motherboard. Still only time will tell but great results so far. Also thanks you for the testing. Appreciated here. Also please keep us updated.
Thanks again Mate.
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I think you're missing something MBO. Mainly that most of us noticed your original thread about flushing a system and have acted upon it. The reason everyone is getting after primochill is because of the degree of clouding and caking on that tubing is bar none. It absolutely is the worst of the worst and it's a company that specifically manufactures tubing for the use in Watercooled computers first, industrial applications second. Half of the other brands just make the stuff for people to use for whatever purpose they deem fit, and the other half of the companies aren't nearly as bad as primochill.

Kind of like the guy who talks a lot of trash at the beginning of the race while buffing a scuff out of his $400 running shoes and doing stretches in a 1 piece leotard made out of some ridiculous synthetic silk, and then comes in dead last against a bunch of kids in chuck tailors and jeans. You do that, you're gonna get trashed.

I have primochill white in my loop. The loop's only been together for 2 months, I flushed it thoroughly before putting the primochill on with the tubing that came with my XSPC kit. After I ran water through it for a few days to ensure everything was loose I did a hot vinegar flush for 10 minutes. After that I cleaned everything thoroughly and have had nothing but distilled water and a kill coil in it. I've pulled the primochill apart and swabbed it once since installing. The caked debris inside the tubing - and it was only inside the tubing and hadn't even touched my fittings or blocks - was ridiculously thick. I just put a GPU block on last week and the film was back and just as thick. Still hasn't appeared in my block or fittings. Water is still clear. I will be changing my tubing as soon as I can see some definitive results on the Durelene (also need to save up some money because I badly want to try some mayhem aurora dyes biggrin.gif, and I'll have to get a new pump/res to do that) because it's only a matter of time before that stuff starts breaking loose and really does clog up my loop.

I cleaned my rad, my blocks, etc... Before hooking it up. I cleaned the tubing after it gummed up. The stuff is back, it won't stop. If primochill is working so hard to fix the problem, they need to put it out to the community that that is exactly what they're doing, and offer some support for those of us who're having problems. Not hide in their basement until the storm blows over and then come to the surface with a fixed product that nobody will buy because they effectively committed economic suicide by ignoring their customers.

Take a look at EK and see what that kind of attitude did for them.

I haven't been on this thread ragging primochill or any other company because they aren't here to see the complaints. Not being a big fan of circle jerks, I'll sit this one out. Will I buy primochill ever again or recommend it to anyone? No. Their product, website, and customer support are gimped. There are no redeeming qualities to this company.

All I'm saying is this: give us some credit. Some of us have tried to do everything right.
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