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Tygothane® C-210-A polyurethane tubing is ester-based that deteriorates when in contact with water, humidity, and fungus. I linked or listed the proper products some pages ago, but you want Tygothane® C-544-A I.B. and Superthane Ether; both are polyurethane ether-based resin tubing that do not have issues with water and fungus. However, any polyurethane that is ether-based will be good for water-cooling loops and can be found in a wide range of color selections (e.g. Surethane). But, do make sure it is ether-based and not ester-based or you will have bad times. Also, just look around enough and you'll find tubing sold at shorter intervals at various resellers or even at a better price. thumb.gif
Durelene is slightly stiffer though less likely to kink in at similar bends.

In the two tubing linked to me only one can be used for most of us who's has 3/4 Fittings is fine the rest won't work because all the wall in the most tubing is 1/16" you can't bend it is like a soda straw very very thickness wall. As far i know tubing for WC system must have 1/8" to 3/32 minimum wall thicknesses. About the Tygothane® C-210-A polyurethane deteriorates when in contact with water, humidity and fungus. I do have to look it yo it, I may be wrong about it but I have to check it.

I was confuse with wall thickness size of 1/16" I was going to say 1/32" i had too much reading and numbers last night and very very tired.
revised post 986
PS: and the funniest thing is, I do work all day with measurements mad.gif
Edited by skyn3t - 7/6/12 at 5:46pm
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In the two tubing linked to me only one can be used for most of us who's has 3/4 Fittings is fine the rest won't work because all the wall in the most tubing is 1/16" you can't bend it is like a soda straw very very thickness wall. As far i know tubing for WC system must have 1/8" to 3/32 minimum wall thicknesses. About the Tygothane® C-210-A polyurethane deteriorates when in contact with water, humidity and fungus. I do have to look it yo it, I may be wrong about it but I have to check it.

That would depend entirely on the elasticity of the material. Stiffer material won't kink as badly and being that much thinner won't be as hard to work with as stiff material with a 1/8' wall. The actual problem is the inside diameter of the tubing not making a tight fit. Tygothane has the correct measurements, and if this is the same stuff I think it is, it pretty much feels like rubber. Superthane is still usable with barbs, since you can use clamps that don't rely on outer diameter.
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So I'm new to WC and a little confused. Is the Tygon 3603 also plasticizer free?
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So I'm new to WC and a little confused. Is the Tygon 3603 also plasticizer free?

Just one word , NOP look back some of my post on this thread when will see how bad it is. Just go back on page #75
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Ok so those were just for comparison. Thanks.

If you haven't gotten 10 people to go in on the good stuff then count me in for 10 feet.

Edit:

I forgot to mention the size 7/16 x 5/8.

Actually I have changed my mind on the expense. My wife just informed me that her hours were cut at work. I'll have to figure out a way to put this off for now. Sorry.
Edited by toricred - 7/6/12 at 4:46pm
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That would depend entirely on the elasticity of the material. Stiffer material won't kink as badly and being that much thinner won't be as hard to work with as stiff material with a 1/8' wall. The actual problem is the inside diameter of the tubing not making a tight fit. Tygothane has the correct measurements, and if this is the same stuff I think it is, it pretty much feels like rubber. Superthane is still usable with barbs, since you can use clamps that don't rely on outer diameter.

You are right and I'm wrong in the post above.
I was confuse with wall thickness size of 1/16" I was going to say 1/32" i had too much reading and numbers last night and very very tired.
PS: and the funniest thing is, I do work all day with measurements mad.gif
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Ok so those were just for comparison. Thanks.
If you haven't gotten 10 people to go in on the good stuff then count me in for 10 feet.
Edit:
I forgot to mention the size 7/16 x 5/8.
Actually I have changed my mind on the expense. My wife just informed me that her hours were cut at work. I'll have to figure out a way to put this off for now. Sorry.

you good man no worries biggrin.gif
Edited by skyn3t - 7/6/12 at 5:46pm
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Hey all back after a major move across country and just getting set up again.
Back in March I ordered and redid my loop with PrimoChill PrimoFlex PRO LRT Tubing 1/2"ID 3/4"OD with 1/8" Wall - 10ft Retail Pack - UV Red (PFLEXP10-34-R) from frozencpu.

All looked beautiful, till after the move and I've got things running again.
The loop only has distilled water and a silver kill coil in it, no other additives. it seem's there is some kind of build up through out all of the tubing, and in particular right where the kill coil is there is massive build up.

It is lining the tubing only it seems as there is nothing floating around in the res.

Should I contact primochill about this?

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post #988 of 3087
They know, they just don't care enough to respond. I'm sure they will replace the tubing but as you can see from this thread, the new tubing would just cloud as well. The only way to be absolutely sure your tubing won't cloud is to buy something plasticizer free
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It most likely be a waist of time contacting PrimoChill as they will ignore you the way they ignored everyone else!
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It most likely be a waist of time contacting PrimoChill as they will ignore you the way they ignored everyone else!

:c sad to hear that this was the case with other people too...
They must be busy with other restructuring activities in their little company to care about quality control?
Who knows...

All I know is that I'm glad I got Duralene and other people are hopping on board.




Though I do wonder what the oily stuff is on the outside of the tubing?
Anyone else experience this? (Rub your finger on the inside radius of any bend)
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