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LAME.... I just did a rebuild with all Switftech stuff except for the compression fittings and res....
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Do want.
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Hmm...I will be watching this. biggrin.gif
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will see, hopefully at a cheaper price too
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These are now available for pre-order at $11.47 each:

http://www.aerocooler.com/shop.cart?action=ITEM&prod_id=FANSWHELIX120

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Without ball bearings, these are not Gentle Typhoon competition. The fact that they are trying to imitate the look of a Gentle Typhoon is rather lame as is the disguised name for their sleeve bearings...

They might be an improved sleeve bearing design, but I don't see how they can escape the issues that fundamentally plague sleeve bearing fans. Reduced performance over their life-time, increased noise generation as they wear and reduced life depending on how they are mounted.


I'd be more impressed by these if they weren't trying to market them as GT knockoffs.
Edited by earthwormjim - 4/20/12 at 6:22pm
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They have the potential to be a nice (and cheap) alternative to GT fans. It all comes down to performance.
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Originally Posted by earthwormjim View Post
They might be an improved sleeve bearing design, but I don't see how they can escape the issues that fundamentally plague sleeve bearing fans. Reduced performance over their life-time, increased noise generation as they wear and reduced life depending on how they are mounted.

They aren't all bad. It just depends how you intend to use them. If you are running low speed fans(especially sub 1000rpm 120mm), then a sleeve bearing will make less noise than a 2 ball bearing fan*. Ball bearing fans also increase in noise as they age, and since they last longer, they will be louder before they die. So you may be better of getting sleeve bearing fans and replacing them.

 

Give this a read: http://www.nmbtc.com/fans/white-papers/fans_ball_vs_sleeve.html

 

*some exceptions, read the paper

 

Summary of the paper: (Click to show)

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Without ball bearings, these are not Gentle Typhoon competition. The fact that they are trying to imitate the look of a Gentle Typhoon is rather lame as is the disguised name for their sleeve bearings...
They might be an improved sleeve bearing design, but I don't see how they can escape the issues that fundamentally plague sleeve bearing fans. Reduced performance over their life-time, increased noise generation as they wear and reduced life depending on how they are mounted.
I'd be more impressed by these if they weren't trying to market them as GT knockoffs.
Nothing is more annoying to me than the pitch of a GT fan at low RPM, so much that I swapped 8 of them out for Kama Flow 2s. Since these fans are effectively half the cost of GTs, that figures into value/lifetime of the bearing as well. That's how I look at it. I want GT airflow/pressure at high RPM combined with silent operation at low RPM. It's a shame they didn't find someone to make the fans with FDBs, but I am looking forward to Helix reviews.
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They aren't all bad. It just depends how you intend to use them. If you are running low speed fans(especially sub 1000rpm 120mm), then a sleeve bearing will make less noise than a 2 ball bearing fan*. Ball bearing fans also increase in noise as they age, and since they last longer, they will be louder before they die. So you may be better of getting sleeve bearing fans and replacing them.

Give this a read: http://www.nmbtc.com/fans/white-papers/fans_ball_vs_sleeve.html

*some exceptions, read the paper
Summary of the paper: (Click to show)
600x469px-LL-ba65baf1_Capture555.jpeg

I agree that sleeve bearing fans have their place, however these are priced too high imo. They're only $3 less than what I payed for my GTs last summer.
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