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Im building a PC for one of my freinds. He wants to spend around $1000. The Parts that I have picked out come out to right around $1300. All he does is play WoW on his laptop so just about anything new will do that. I want to just build a killer PC. The video card I am not really sure of, I just went w/ that because its cheap, I have it and it works great for me, and I don't know much of ATI. So if anyone can take a look at these parts and maybe shave a few hundred, that would be great.

SAMSUNG Combo Drive Black IDE Model SH-M522C/BEBN - OEM $22.39
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151086

Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3160811AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $56.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148149

XFX PVT73GUGD3 Geforce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail $146.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131045

ASUS P5B Deluxe Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $194.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131045

Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz 2M sharing L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail $269.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115004

Sunbeam NUUO SUNNU550-US-BK ATX12V/ EPS12V 550W Power Supply - Retail $74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817709004

G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail $269.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231065

Antec Performance I P180B Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel for durability through the majority of chassis 1.0mm cold rolled steel around the 4 x HDD area ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129017

Edit: So far down to $1110
post #2 of 73
Overkill on the CPU, and too expensive RAM.

Get the E6300 for $180.00
And this G.Skill RAM for $269.00. Cheaper, and very very good.
This COOLER MASTER Centurion 541 case is only $44.99 with free shipping.

With these changes, total will be $993.34 + shipping
    
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Save a lot of money by going for an E6300/6400 and definitely cut down the RAM. Unless you're going to be overclocking, you will NOT need 8500 RAM. Go for PC6400 or something. By a good brand, say G.Skill, you may even be able to overclock to PC8000 speeds. (that's 1000MHz from 800MHz stock ) I'd say go for the G.Skill HZ PC6400 kit. It's cheaper definitely.

Other than that, if you must go for Conroe, at least save some money on the RAM.

Seems like you taught me something there Chozart. G.Skill ftw!
    
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500GB 7200.10 + 160gb WD Windows Vista x64 SP1 Dell SP23" something W. Saitek USB 
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Agreed. See my previous post for suggestions.

For an $1,000 rig, changing the CPU/RAM/Case will bring the budget down low enough.
For an $1,300 rig, get an E6400/G.Skill RAM/Coolermaster Case, and add a second (and better!) hard drive for RAID0, and a better PSU, DVD burner, and sound card, and a better video card (X1900XT 256MB, or an 7900GS)
    
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E8400 @ 3.8 GHz DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2R eVGA 8400GS 2GB Mushkin DDR2 800 (single stick) 
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post #5 of 73
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Originally Posted by Chozart
Overkill on the CPU, and too expensive RAM.
Yeah, I don't really understand the whole ram freq and fsb relationships on the Intels. I know that c2d uses a 1066 fsb, so wouldn't I want ddr2 to keep a 1:1 ratio? Also does the difference in L2 cache really make that much of difference? Say I have a 6600 and a 6400 clocked to 6600 speeds, what kind of superpi difference am I looking at?
post #6 of 73
The cache does help, definitely, but you will not notice that much difference. Yet.

The 1066 MHz Bus is Quad-Pumped, meaning the C2Ds have an actual FSB of 266.5 (Multiplied by 4 is 1066..)
    
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500GB 7200.10 + 160gb WD Windows Vista x64 SP1 Dell SP23" something W. Saitek USB 
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750W Something or other. Beige ATX Mid Case Belkin GLOWY Optical None 
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500GB 7200.10 + 160gb WD Windows Vista x64 SP1 Dell SP23" something W. Saitek USB 
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Cache on the Core 2 Duo's does not make that much a difference I believe. The E6300/E6400 perform really well..

Ok, RAM v. CPU speed for this thing. The FSB is 1066 Quad pumped, which means a 266 external frequency. To find the external frequency for DDR2 RAM, divide the DDR2 speed by 2. Thus, the external frequency for DDR2 800 is 800/2 = 400MHz. By default, DDR2 800 runs at a 266:400 or 2:3 divider with the CPU (in favor of the RAM). To be 1:1, RAM should be running at an external frequency of 266MHz, or at DDR2 533 speeds. Thus, DDR2 533 is the RAM that runs 1:1 with the CPU at stock speeds.

However, for overclocking you want headroom. Thus, DDR2 800 is the best pick. Core 2 Duo's easily reach overclocks with an FSB or 2,000 MHz, or an external frequency of 400MHz. With RAM set at DDR2 533 in the BIOS, the effective RAM speed will then be 400/266 * 533 = 800MHz (thus DDR2 800 speeds)

Hope this explains it. DDR2 800 is all you need. It often can hit speeds up to 1000MHz or more, which translates in an FSB (external) of 500MHz with RAM 1:1. You won't need more than that.
    
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E8400 @ 3.8 GHz DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2R eVGA 8400GS 2GB Mushkin DDR2 800 (single stick) 
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post #8 of 73
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Ok, thanks alot to both of you. I am going to make a few changes, post them and after that I have to got to work. But please post anything you have on the changes. Also, is there a cheaper ati video card that will outperform the 7600 gt at 590mhz?
post #9 of 73
Yep. As I explained.

and here are superpi times

http://www.overclock.net/benchmarkin...ficial+superpi

There seems to be around 1.5 s difference between the E6300/E6400 and the E6600 at equal clock speeds. If that's worht it, then fine.

However, he wants an $1,000 rig, and in that budget an E6600 simply won't fit.
    
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E8400 @ 3.8 GHz DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2R eVGA 8400GS 2GB Mushkin DDR2 800 (single stick) 
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post #10 of 73
Nice big post there Chozart, lots of info

Yes, DDR2-533 is fine for a C2D at stock. If you were to overclock you would want something faster for a more substantial overclock.

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Originally Posted by Frankie_Ballz
Ok, thanks alot to both of you. I am going to make a few changes, post them and after that I have to got to work. But please post anything you have on the changes. Also, is there a cheaper ati video card that will outperform the 7600 gt at 590mhz?
The 7600GT is an excellent card IMO. You won't get much more bang for your buck.


Edit: To save some more $$$, go for a cheaper motherboard, like the DS3 or to save even more, the S3. The only difference between the two is the fact that the DS3 uses solid capacitors rather than electrolytic and therefore lasts a couple years longer.
    
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E6750 @ 3.1GHz ASus P5K-E XFX HD5750 2x2GB Team Elite PC6400 + 2x2GB G.Skill Pi Series. 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
500GB 7200.10 + 160gb WD Windows Vista x64 SP1 Dell SP23" something W. Saitek USB 
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750W Something or other. Beige ATX Mid Case Belkin GLOWY Optical None 
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500GB 7200.10 + 160gb WD Windows Vista x64 SP1 Dell SP23" something W. Saitek USB 
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