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Meet Zac Glander. He's an independent hardware technician and modder, and he's teamed up with Zotac, Intel, and 3M to bring you something special.

See that PC next to him? You're probably thinking, "What is that, oil immersion?" Nope, look closer.

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That's a PC submerged in a specially formulated phase change cooling solution, which is non-conductive, non-corrosive, and evaporates at 34*C. The liquid absorbs heat and evaporates. Convection carries it though a 240mm rad with two average RPM fans and a condenser. The liquid condenses, and flows back down into the PC again.

That graphics card is a GTX580 with a special cooling block, running four instances of Furmark. Its temperature when I was there was 45*C. The CPU, an i7 2600k at 3.5GHz, has no cooling block so was sitting at 70*C when running Prime95, but was able to do 4.8GHz at 84*C. Zac did have a cooling block available though, and it should improve performance dramatically:

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Zac is currently looking at getting this system out there in integrated solutions for field testing, as the systems can be more controlled and use less fluid, but he does hope that it can be available to enthusiasts at retail at some point. The liquid is ~$200-$300 per gallon at bulk prices, so it definitely isn't a budget solution. However, it has a similar entry cost as water cooling, and the fluid should only need topping off every couple of years at typical loss rates.
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Hmm very interesting hope we can get more pictures or maybe a link to a site for more info
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2600k has NO heatsink?
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this would cost a lot to run? 300w+?
    
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2600k has NO heatsink?

None, unless you get picky and count the IHS, though that is lapped.
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This stuff is boss. I wanted to make one until I found out it cost $300+ a gallon

 

I believe it's call Novec 7000 for anyone that cares.

 

Also not new but I was curious how this stuff would handle high end hardware with and OC.

 

    
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Yes, Novec 7000 by 3M. Thanks, I'd forgotten to write it down. tongue.gif
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2600k has NO heatsink?


 



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None, unless you get picky and count the IHS, though that is lapped.


Personally I wouldn't have lapped it for two reasons. One it would look boss to see bubbles coming off a bare 2600k. And the second for the exact same flaw that causes so many people to lap their CPUS. The micro in perfection create more surface area and would potentially make it transfer heat more efficiently, in theory that is.

    
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2600k has NO heatsink?

This liquid boils at 36c or whatever. Once it reaches that temperature, it vaporizes and bubbles up to the top. A heatsink on anything in the computer would only give that component higher temps.
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Personally I wouldn't have lapped it for two reasons. One it would look boss to see bubbles coming off a bare 2600k. And the second for the exact same flaw that causes so many people to lap their CPUS. The micro in perfection create more surface area and would potentially make it transfer heat more efficiently, in theory that is.

Yes. I think he lapped it to take the heatsink, but maybe it wasn't ready in time for CES. I think a bare 2600k would have run a few degrees cooler due to greater surface area. But based on what he described re: the 580 that heatsink should decrease temperatures by 20-40*C easily.
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