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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835207009

Cheaper and similar to better performance than the Hyper 212+, with a tube of MX-4.
And +1 for the SSD.
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Originally Posted by WhitePrQjser View Post

Good all-round system smile.gif
Well, of course an i7-2600k would be good, because, as I believe, Photoshop can utilize the HyperThreading. But don't qoute me on this tongue.gif
Only thing really is the PSU. Cooler Master aren't that great a brand for PSUs, and 750W is way enough. You might even consider a 500W PSU. You should look into either these brands:
Corsair
XFX
Enermax
Seasonic
NZXT
Super Flower
Kingwin
Chieftec
Chill
Sparkle
Thermaltake Toughpower XT
Check out this calculator, and see the recommended PSU for your system, when done:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1140534/psu-calc-final-release
Hope it helped smile.gif
Also, I'm not sure whether Photoshop utilizes CUDA cores or not, so if it does, you might want to look into a nVidia card, but performance wise, you won't get anything better in that price range than a 6850, so it's a good choice smile.gif
I'm gonna +rep you, since it actually looks like, you put some thought into the system - and I like your generousity about buying games for your girl.
Don't worry about the RAM. 8 Gb. is fine.
EDIT: An SSD would really be a good choice. Intel 500 series, Samsung 800 series, Crucial m4 series or Kingston. I'd recommend those smile.gif

Yeah, i did give it a bit of thought! ;D

It's not for MY girl, she's just my girlfriends friend tongue.gif

Besides i like to see my handywork put to good use!

EDIT: Almost missed this.
As for the PSU, i was looking for advice on this. Looking for 650 -750w as it's good just to be safe..
I mean the price difference here for a cheapo 500w to a decent 650-750w is about $30. I think it'd be better to go over-the-top, these also have awesome warranties! wink.gif
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A SSD would be good for the OS but Adobe actually says that a SSD wont help PS besides the initial loading if its installed on it, its better to set up the scratch disk to the SSD which will help in the editing side, because once its loaded it will just use the scratch disk. Large hard drives are also nice, when doing my graphic design and web art work I seem to fill up hard drives too fast, PSDs can get large awful quick.
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Should tear up photoshop and some games, might want to look at asus for a motherboard though as they seem to have better 1155 boards than gigabyte. Really though most things people do in photoshop will not come close to the limits of this computer. I vote for the ssd simply because the fast boot times of programs and windows will give her a much better impression of how fast the computer is.


Ah, i see. So an SSD might not be worth it over say a 27 inch screen upgrade? I really think that it'd be better off with a bigger screen for photoshop.
And an SSD is a bit technical to setup if i say so myself.
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Most likely you will need an ssd thumb.gif . You could save money and use a 650 watt PSU if you're not planning crossfire. And I suggest an Asrock z68 pro mobo as it's cheaper and just as fast.
Good Luck with the build!

I'm sticking to the better brands as i don't want any hiccups with RMA, anyway the asrock board thats similar is only around $5 less.. Gigabyte/Asus have a better warranty, to be honest i prefer Gigabyte as i've never worked with anything else. rolleyes.gif
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Real nice build. It'll handle PS well without any hiccups. You mentioned you might possibly throw an SSD on there, that would make PS load PSDs and just generally be very fast, so it would be great for large pieces.

Yeah, that was the idea. I said to come to me for computer advice, whether it be a Laptop or Desktop. They could claim a Harvey Norman $1500 rip-off. But i suggested this is better, as it's the exact kind of PC she wants. It's got a better warranty (most likely) and has better quality parts. Can be changed and upgraded without the warranty being lost also.

It's also just a nicer PC in total, worth alot more too. Also i might be able to pass this off on tax for them, i'll talk to my friend who did it. 'cause our family accountant said i can't! D:

Cheers for the advice everyone! cheers.gif
Well so far, anyway!

I might do a build log of this too! Don't expect any photos of the girls though! thumbsupsmiley.png
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835207009
Cheaper and similar to better performance than the Hyper 212+, with a tube of MX-4.
And +1 for the SSD.

This came up after i pressed "Post" haha.

As i said the SSD will be alot of hassle, i'll probably just set it up for hibernate wink.gif

I can't get that cooler here, and i love my Hyper 212 and CM products, so i'll just go for that anyway!

As for the person saying about 1TB being too much.. Why not spend $15 more and get a hard drive double the size? It's like the $2 difference for 1333 and 1600 ram.. tongue.gif

Also i'm only going 500GB 'cause hard drives are expensive here at the moment, and hard to source.
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I personally would only invest in a bigger monitor if you went with say a Dell Ultrasharp for the color accuracy and higher resolution. If thats way out of your price range than maybe 2 smaller monitors, multiple monitors really are useful for me when it comes to using photoshop and coding. A SSD would be a good upgrade down the road though if she is working with very large files.

Edit: Feel free to PM me when you get it all set up if you need help optimizing the rig for photoshop, I put a lot of time getting mine to work perfectly with it and I could help you out if you want.
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i use a lot of photoshop,heres what is of utmost importance.

RAM-8gb is enough of photoshop,but getting a bigger kit wont hurt(assuming she works on a big(10m+) canvas with many(50+) layers.size is more important than frequency.u can go for a 1333mhz ram of bigger size.

 

HDD and ssd- ssd is good for faster boot times and prog launch.she will be storing all her data on the HDD,so the she will also work on files stored on the hdd.so if u think an ssd is worth the time saved in os and program launch,go for it.in photoshop tasks with an ssd u will save approximately 1min for every 30mins as compared to a hdd.(IMO,go for a ssd if u have money left.)also a 1tb hdd is required.dont go for a 512gb hdd.

 

as many have suggested,go for a better PSU.CM have started building good units but have a bad reputation of shaky PSUs.

 

CPU and GPU-invest more in CPU than GPU as photoshop is cpu intensive.

 

 

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835207009
Cheaper and similar to better performance than the Hyper 212+, with a tube of MX-4.
And +1 for the SSD.
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i use a lot of photoshop,heres what is of utmost importance.
RAM-8gb is enough of photoshop,but getting a bigger kit wont hurt(assuming she works on a big(10m+) canvas with many(50+) layers.size is more important than frequency.u can go for a 1333mhz ram of bigger size.

HDD and ssd- ssd is good for faster boot times and prog launch.she will be storing all her data on the HDD,so the she will also work on files stored on the hdd.so if u think an ssd is worth the time saved in os and program launch,go for it.in photoshop tasks with an ssd u will save approximately 1min for every 30mins as compared to a hdd.(IMO,go for a ssd if u have money left.)also a 1tb hdd is required.dont go for a 512gb hdd.

as many have suggested,go for a better PSU.CM have started building good units but have a bad reputation of shaky PSUs.

CPU and GPU-invest more in CPU than GPU as photoshop is cpu intensive.


As i said she wanted it for some light gaming too!
Indeed i could knock back some of the stuff, but an i7 is still too much!

SSD isn't really needed now that I've been thinking about it, seeing as photoshop wouldn't have much gain from it! (nor will games)

It's for a photography class actually, i don't know how hardcore the work they'll be doing is. As i said it'll be for gaming too, and other things.
I was looking at a few monitors from the dell outlet to keep the price down. It all depends when they send me the $1500. (or when they're in town next)

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I personally would only invest in a bigger monitor if you went with say a Dell Ultrasharp for the color accuracy and higher resolution. If thats way out of your price range than maybe 2 smaller monitors, multiple monitors really are useful for me when it comes to using photoshop and coding. A SSD would be a good upgrade down the road though if she is working with very large files.
Edit: Feel free to PM me when you get it all set up if you need help optimizing the rig for photoshop, I put a lot of time getting mine to work perfectly with it and I could help you out if you want.

That'd be great! biggrin.gif

I suggested multiple monitors, but she doesn't want that. So i'll probably be sticking with a single 24 inch or maybe a 27.. Depends on the time and prices i can get them for!


Also should i overclock it? Seeing as its an unlocked CPU... hehe

It's not worth getting a 2500 as its only $10 less.. I could set it at 4GHz and make sure its stable ;p

'cause i like to stress test all PC's i build for a couple of hours to make sure it's fine. Even if it's just a non-overclocked dual core. Just to make sure everything works right wink.gif

Looking at the power supplies its down to 2 of them. Unless anyone can suggest something better?

I've heard good things about Corsair and their power supplies! And i like the 5 year warranty wink.gif
Link

The same for the strider, but it's fully modular! (is the corsair modular?)
It only has a 3 year warranty though!
Link

Which one would you guys suggest?
Also that's the site i'm buying from if you didn't figure wink.gif
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As i said she wanted it for some light gaming too!
Indeed i could knock back some of the stuff, but an i7 is still too much!
SSD isn't really needed now that I've been thinking about it, seeing as photoshop wouldn't have much gain from it! (nor will games)
It's for a photography class actually, i don't know how hardcore the work they'll be doing is. As i said it'll be for gaming too, and other things.
I was looking at a few monitors from the dell outlet to keep the price down. It all depends when they send me the $1500. (or when they're in town next)
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That'd be great! biggrin.gif
I suggested multiple monitors, but she doesn't want that. So i'll probably be sticking with a single 24 inch or maybe a 27.. Depends on the time and prices i can get them for!
Also should i overclock it? Seeing as its an unlocked CPU... hehe
It's not worth getting a 2500 as its only $10 less.. I could set it at 4GHz and make sure its stable ;p
'cause i like to stress test all PC's i build for a couple of hours to make sure it's fine. Even if it's just a non-overclocked dual core. Just to make sure everything works right wink.gif

Oh yeah might as well overclock I mean sandy bridge overclocks like a champ and it will give it a little more speed! biggrin.gif
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Personally I'd say you could go a notch lower on the CPU, forget the SSD and get a better monitor - I think it should be one of the most important things for a Photoshop build. I have an old S-PVA next to a TN and never drag Photoshop on the TN panel. I'm no expert on monitors though, if it were me I'd post in the monitor forum asking for a monitor for Photoshop.
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Oh yeah might as well overclock I mean sandy bridge overclocks like a champ and it will give it a little more speed! biggrin.gif

That's what i was thinking wink.gif

I'll be spending a weekend there with my girlfriend.. So it'll be plenty of time!
From what i've seen i can expect a 4 to 4.2GHz overclock on it with that cooler?

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Personally I'd say you could go a notch lower on the CPU, forget the SSD and get a better monitor - I think it should be one of the most important things for a Photoshop build. I have an old S-PVA next to a TN and never drag Photoshop on the TN panel. I'm no expert on monitors though, if it were me I'd post in the monitor forum asking for a monitor for Photoshop.

Keeping the CPU as it's really decent! And i'm starting to like Intel more! tongue.gif

I've long forgotten the SSD, she only wants a 24 inch screen. So yeah, i'll look around for them. Might have a look there!

Also, giving everyone rep in here for the awesome help and suggestions! smile.gif
 
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That's what i was thinking wink.gif
I'll be spending a weekend there with my girlfriend.. So it'll be plenty of time!
From what i've seen i can expect a 4 to 4.2GHz overclock on it with that cooler?
Keeping the CPU as it's really decent! And i'm starting to like Intel more! tongue.gif
I've long forgotten the SSD, she only wants a 24 inch screen. So yeah, i'll look around for them. Might have a look there!
Also, giving everyone rep in here for the awesome help and suggestions! smile.gif

Yeah you should be able to do that with that cooler, sandy bridge runs pretty cool
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Personally I'd say you could go a notch lower on the CPU, forget the SSD and get a better monitor - I think it should be one of the most important things for a Photoshop build. I have an old S-PVA next to a TN and never drag Photoshop on the TN panel. I'm no expert on monitors though, if it were me I'd post in the monitor forum asking for a monitor for Photoshop.
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Yeah you should be able to do that with that cooler, sandy bridge runs pretty cool

Yeah. Sweet!
I've heard this, but i've also heard (and seen) that it runs quite warm/hot once they get over-volted.. Like any CPU i suppose rolleyes.gif

I don't want an absolute max overclock on it, just something for a speed bump that's stable wink.gif
 
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Convertible i5 3570k (De-Lidded) Gigabyte Z77x-D3H XFX R9 290 With Koolance Block (1179/1450) 16GB G-Skill Ares 1866 
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Samsung 840 Evo Seagate Barracuda 2TB 1x OEM DVD Drives Heatkiller Rev 3.0 
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XSPC RX360 Laing D5 + XSPC Res Primochill Bloodshed Red Tubing Koolance Fullcover R9 290x Block 
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XSPC EX360 Windows 10 Pro x64 Asus VEH228H Asus VE228H 
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Aavara TS742 Dual Monitor Stand Ducky Shine II Cherry Blue RED Backlit Mechanic... Silverstone Strider 850W Thermaltake Core x71 Tempered Glass Riing Edition 
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