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post #21 of 51
A 128GB SSD for os and photoshop

Fill it with 16GB of ram

Get this mobo

Also get the i7 2600k for hyper threading photoshop uses it but not all the time, it will be nice for her to have it there one command

Also get this power supply

The total with these parts and yours is: $1563 AUD (I'm Aussie btw)

Here's my build of her pc: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=wish_lists&wlcId=34030&action=wish_lists
Edited by chrisguitar - 1/14/12 at 4:38am
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Yeah. Sweet!
I've heard this, but i've also heard (and seen) that it runs quite warm/hot once they get over-volted.. Like any CPU i suppose rolleyes.gif
I don't want an absolute max overclock on it, just something for a speed bump that's stable wink.gif

Yeah i would say you can do 4 pretty dang easily without having to worry about temps.
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I would say the more ram the better, i work alot in photoshop and 8GB ram is not enough. I would suggest 16GB, it doesnt cost that much anyway
 
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post #24 of 51
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i5 2500k is enough, she's learning photoshop! wink.gif
I'll look at the other things you suggested! I'm looking at abut $1300 for tower + screen as she has other stuff she needs with the extra $200.

EDIT: Will go with that motherboard, looks sexy and it has good features too!
The power supply, as i stated earlier i'd rather go for a few more watts, thanks for the advice anyway!
Also i'm liking G-Skills, but i'll look into 16GB! wink.gif
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Yeah i would say you can do 4 pretty dang easily without having to worry about temps.

Oh okay then, i'll see how it goes then! Thanks for that! smile.gif
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I would say the more ram the better, i work alot in photoshop and 8GB ram is not enough. I would suggest 16GB, it doesnt cost that much anyway

Yeah, i'll see what the cost is closer to the time, as i said she's not massively into Photoshop but thanks for the suggestion nonetheless!
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post #25 of 51
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i5 2500k is enough, she's learning photoshop! wink.gif
I'll look at the other things you suggested! I'm looking at abut $1300 for tower + screen as she has other stuff she needs with the extra $200.

i5 2500k is enough but for an extra $64 bucks in your build the hyper threading is there and photoshop uses it smile.gif

Everyone needs to start from some where, we all did smile.gif

well what I put was a good build for her because as a phototshop user I can tell you know, 8GB of ram isn't enough, my ssd helped me so much even though mine isn't sata3 and also I wish I had of bought the 2600k now that I understand more about technology and the apps I use.

Trust me make no mistake spend the extra $63 and get the 2600k, 16GB or ram and the SSD it will make the experience amazing.
post #26 of 51
I get a ton of use from my card reader. DSLR>Camera Raw>Photoshop. Total digital dark room. CiBi is right about the memory, get 16 its cheap, and 1tb hd is a must.

Photoshop doesn't scale well over 4 cores, actually slower with HT on. After boot, my quad i7 runs just as fast as my hex. Don't know where some of these guys find their info.rolleyes.gif

http://macperformanceguide.com/Reviews-MacProWestmere-Photoshop-CoresSlower.html
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i use a lot of photoshop,heres what is of utmost importance.
RAM-8gb is enough of photoshop,but getting a bigger kit wont hurt(assuming she works on a big(10m+) canvas with many(50+) layers.size is more important than frequency.u can go for a 1333mhz ram of bigger size.

HDD and ssd- ssd is good for faster boot times and prog launch.she will be storing all her data on the HDD,so the she will also work on files stored on the hdd.so if u think an ssd is worth the time saved in os and program launch,go for it.in photoshop tasks with an ssd u will save approximately 1min for every 30mins as compared to a hdd.(IMO,go for a ssd if u have money left.)also a 1tb hdd is required.dont go for a 512gb hdd.

as many have suggested,go for a better PSU.CM have started building good units but have a bad reputation of shaky PSUs.

CPU and GPU-invest more in CPU than GPU as photoshop is cpu intensive.
 

As i said she wanted it for some light gaming too!
Indeed i could knock back some of the stuff, but an i7 is still too much!

SSD isn't really needed now that I've been thinking about it, seeing as photoshop wouldn't have much gain from it! (nor will games)

It's for a photography class actually, i don't know how hardcore the work they'll be doing is. As i said it'll be for gaming too, and other things.
I was looking at a few monitors from the dell outlet to keep the price down. It all depends when they send me the $1500. (or when they're in town next)
 


if its gona be used for photography,down the road she will probably use lightroom too.

that is more cpu and memory intensive.

i would suggest-

  1. as said b4,more ram.(only if she is going to work on PS for hours at a time with huge files,if its just for 1 class 8gb is fine)(if going for more than 8gb go for kits with only 2 or 3 sticks as 4sticks tend to hamper overclocks and performance.)
  2. overclock to 4.2ghz(thats the max 212evo can handle i believe.)
  3. go for a psu with pre sleeved cables.the yellow,red,black cables look BAD!!(that is if u have a transparent side panel :) 

cheers and all the best!

 

 

Edit

PS:once u get a new pc,you are never happy with just 'some light gaming' :p u r bound to start playing atleast one high end game!


Edited by breadcrums - 1/14/12 at 4:57am
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I get a ton of use from my card reader. DSLR>Camera Raw>Photoshop. Total digital dark room. CiBi is right about the memory, get 16 its cheap, and 1tb hd is a must.
Photoshop doesn't scale well over 4 cores, actually slower with HT on. After boot, my quad i7 runs just as fast as my hex. Don't know where some of these guys find their info.rolleyes.gif
http://macperformanceguide.com/Reviews-MacProWestmere-Photoshop-CoresSlower.html

Dude, I said it uses it sometimes not all the time for the extra $63 my build costs him its worth it.

Quote from this site; http://forums.adobe.com/thread/806048

Given that some parts of Photoshop use multi-threading, and if your computer is set to enable Hyperthreading, then the answer would be a partial yes. Not all of Photoshop is multi-threaded.

A CPU core with Intel's proprietary Hyperthreading implementation appears as two "logical" processors to Windows, and two threads can be executing simultaneously with some performance gain over each being executed in separate time slices on one processor.
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if its gona be used for photography,down the road she will probably use lightroom too.
that is more cpu and memory intensive.
i would suggest-
  1. as said b4,more ram.(only if she is going to work on PS for hours at a time with huge files,if its just for 1 class 8gb is fine)(if going for more than 8gb go for kits with only 2 or 3 sticks as 4sticks tend to hamper overclocks and performance.)
  2. overclock to 4.2ghz(thats the max 212evo can handle i believe.)
  3. go for a psu with pre sleeved cables.the yellow,red,black cables look BAD!!(that is if u have a transparent side panel smile.gif 
cheers and all the best!


Edit
PS:once u get a new pc,you are never happy with just 'some light gaming' tongue.gif u r bound to start playing atleast one high end game!

Fully modular is needed more then sleeved! But i'll take that into consideration! wink.gif
Yes, it's a transparent side panel, so i'll have to try with cable management this time! tongue.gif
And i know, but it's not for me. I have a budget constraint and at the moment she only plays Minecraft... lol
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I get a ton of use from my card reader. DSLR>Camera Raw>Photoshop. Total digital dark room. CiBi is right about the memory, get 16 its cheap, and 1tb hd is a must.
Photoshop doesn't scale well over 4 cores, actually slower with HT on. After boot, my quad i7 runs just as fast as my hex. Don't know where some of these guys find their info.rolleyes.gif
http://macperformanceguide.com/Reviews-MacProWestmere-Photoshop-CoresSlower.html

Yeah, and an i5 2500k ain't slow anyway! wink.gif
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i5 2500k is enough but for an extra $64 bucks in your build the hyper threading is there and photoshop uses it smile.gif
Everyone needs to start from some where, we all did smile.gif
well what I put was a good build for her because as a phototshop user I can tell you know, 8GB of ram isn't enough, my ssd helped me so much even though mine isn't sata3 and also I wish I had of bought the 2600k now that I understand more about technology and the apps I use.
Trust me make no mistake spend the extra $63 and get the 2600k, 16GB or ram and the SSD it will make the experience amazing.

SSD would be good, but as it's been mentioned even adobe suggest to not use an SSD.
I'd include it but a better CPU would be more needed one would think.

16GB is only do-able in the price range if i get 4 sticks, in my experience with 4 sticks i've had no problems with 4 sticks of DDR2. Got the same overclock!

Anyway, it's a multiplier CPU overclock? Surely bumping up the voltage on the memory would fix any instability problems? biggrin.gif

Also i don't know where you're getting the price difference between the 2500k and 2600k from. The 2500k to 2600k jump is like $120.. Puts it out of budget once again.

The computer will be awesome for her needs and the budget, better then a $1300 Harvey Norman PC that they were going to buy wink.gif

To put that into consideration it had an i3.. With a 500GB HDD and no graphics card..
Edited by Matt-Matt - 1/14/12 at 5:07am
 
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post #30 of 51
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Originally Posted by Matt-Matt View Post

Yeah, and an i5 2500k ain't slow anyway! wink.gif
SSD would be good, but as it's been mentioned even adobe suggest to not use an SSD.
I'd include it but a better CPU would be more needed one would think.
16GB is only do-able in the price range if i get 4 sticks, in my experience with 4 sticks i've had no problems with 4 sticks of DDR2. Got the same overclock!
Anyway, it's a multiplier CPU overclock? Surely bumping up the voltage on the memory would fix any instability problems? biggrin.gif
Also i don't know where you're getting the price difference between the 2500k and 2600k from. The 2500k to 2600k jump is like $120.. Puts it out of budget once again.
The computer will be awesome for her needs and the budget, better then a $1300 Harvey Norman PC that they were going to buy wink.gif
To put that into consideration it had an i3.. With a 500GB HDD and no graphics card..

No the price difference between your $1500 budget and my build was $63, mine was better than yours just saying but in the end you are buying it.....
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