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Two days ago Intel made the mistake of playing a video of a DX11 game (F1 2011) instead of running the game itself on an Ivy Bridge Ultrabook. We mentioned the gaffe in our original post on the topic and followed up yesterday with a video that showed the title working on an Ivy Bridge notebook. Unfortunately the Ultrabook from the original demo wasn't available at the time, but we finally got some hands on time with the exact system that Mooly used in the original presentation:

Intel Ultrabook running DX11 Source

Intel finally shows DX11 gameplay on their Ultrabook rather than the notebook in the other threads that everyone was complaining about including myself. But here shows it working for real this time on a Ultrabook. Still doesnt stack up to AMD's Trinity APU running 1080p DX11 and 1080p HD video and decoding on another HD screen. 3 monitor eyefinity with resolution at 5760x1080p on a 17Watt APU which is the same TDP of intels ultrabook APU. Although Intels cpu power is much more, it doesnt do much for gaming compared to AMD APU.

Either way, Intel and AMD are going to offer some great competition this year. Cant wait to see how the year ends up. Good luck to both teams.
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Interesting...

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Ok heres a serious question :

For someone who doesnt game at all , but still watch movies, web browse, do office work, music/pictures sharing etc ....... I dont know what would you prefer ?! a Better CPU or GPU!

Id go with a better GPU IMO ! web browsing without a good GPU nowday is totally impossible, same as watching any video ... whats the advantage of that superior intel CPU ?!
Edited by DarkBlade6 - 1/14/12 at 8:17pm
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Intel is really upping its game in integrated graphics despite all the hate. Intel HD 3000 and HD 4000 were big leaps, and Intel iGPUs have come a long way.

Besides, even the earlier demo wasn't really cheating, the presenter admitted clearly that it was being streamed by someone from backstage.

As for AMD APUs, they do offer better graphical performance making them prime choices for gamers on budget, but they also give significantly worse CPU performance. Currently, Llano is not priced that competitively; and if Trinity is priced like Llano, I wouldn't think it will greatly challenge Intel.

Not to mention that for the average user CPU performance is much more important than GPU performance. Overall computer performance, browsing, creating documents and multimedia (both creation and usage) (in addition to popular MMOs) all rely much more heavily on the CPU than anything.

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Ok heres a serious question :
For someone who doesnt game at all , but still watch movies, web browse, do office work, music/pictures sharing etc ....... I dont know what would you prefer ?! a Better CPU or GPU!

Intel HD 3000 (let alone HD 4000) is plenty enough for 1600p playback. Every day usage relies much more heavily on CPU. Though a fast HDD, and especially a fast SSD play an immense role too for desktop performance.

A great CPU with high IPC (because most daily apps are lowly threaded), and a fast SSD give by far the best desktop performance.
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Intel is really upping its game in integrated graphics despite all the hate. Intel HD 3000 and HD 4000 were big leaps, and Intel iGPUs have come a long way.
Besides, even the earlier demo wasn't really cheating, the presenter admitted clearly that it was being streamed by someone from backstage.
As for AMD APUs, they do offer better graphical performance making them prime choices for gamers on budget, but they also give significantly worse CPU performance. Currently, Llano is not priced that competitively; and if Trinity is priced like Llano, I wouldn't think it will greatly challenge Intel.
Not to mention that for the average user CPU performance is much more important than GPU performance. Overall computer performance, browsing, creating documents and multimedia (both creation and usage) (in addition to popular MMOs) all rely much more heavily on the CPU than anything.
Intel HD 3000 (let alone HD 4000) is plenty enough for 1600p playback. Every day usage relies much more heavily on CPU. Though a fast HDD, and especially a fast SSD play an immense role too for desktop performance.
A great CPU with high IPC (because most daily apps are lowly threaded), and a fast SSD give by far the best desktop performance.

I disagree. AMD APU cpu performance is not significantly less imo. Also, with amd's fusion, allows the gpu to do a lot of the compute too so that basically makes up for the cpu performance decrease.

AMD APU's are the way to go for mainstream users right now.
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I disagree. AMD APU cpu performance is not significantly less imo. Also, with amd's fusion, allows the gpu to do a lot of the compute too so that basically makes up for the cpu performance decrease.
AMD APU's are the way to go for mainstream users right now.

AMD APUs have Athlon II CPUs and perform exatly like them. We're comparing a CPU architecture that's from 3-gens ago, to Intel SB (and later Ivy) which is the most advanced consumer CPU tech atm. The CPU performance difference is staggering.

Also, as I said before, literally every desktop usage uses the CPU, only gaming and certain forms of graphical design need anything more than a decent GPU. Llano is great for budget gamers, or people planning to game considerably on their computers. It's also a good choice for HTPCs but that's about it.
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AMD APUs have Athlon II CPUs and perform exatly like them. We're comparing a CPU architecture that's from 3-gens ago, to Intel SB (and later Ivy) which is the most advanced consumer CPU tech atm. The CPU performance difference is staggering.
Also, as I said before, literally every desktop usage uses the CPU, only gaming and certain forms of graphical design need anything more than a decent GPU. Llano is great for budget gamers, or people planning to game considerably on their computers. It's also a good choice for HTPCs but that's about it.

Thats probably why AMD has did very well for themselves with their AMD APU fusion line.
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Thats probably why AMD has did very well for themselves with their AMD APU fusion line.

4% year-to-year increase is doing okay, not anything special. And Llano is an improvement over previous AMD moblie CPU lineup so that is likely the cause for that.
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4% year-to-year increase is doing okay, not anything special. And Llano is an improvement over previous AMD moblie CPU lineup so that is likely the cause for that.

Trinity is to have 25% increase in cpu performance over llano in mobile department. Graphics to have 50% increase over llano too.

It will be a little less for desktop chips but still considerable increase.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5411/amds-trinity-apu-at-ces-shipping-in-mid2012
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dem graphics are awful.
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