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The base i7 model will increase by 300Mhz (2ghz vs 1.7ghz) in frequency (as well as on One and two-core turbo freq). 300Mhz might not seem as much but it's actually a ~20% increase in frequency. You also seem to forget that on release the chips are always lower clocked, and that higher clocked chips in the same line are released a few months after (even 1.8ghz models are available atm). The first SB ULVs were clocked at 1.5Ghz and then as the line was refined higher clocks were released. Same thing will happen with Ivy, and we could expect up to 2.5Ghz ULV chips.
Also, I do know what I'm talking about and there is no need to get personal.

I never said you didnt know what you were talking about. You made it personal and anyway, the only thing that matters is that there is not going to be a considerable gain in performance over sandy bridge. You said much higher clocks and that is not much higher clocks.

If you dont want personal then dont bring up personal.
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I disagree. AMD APU cpu performance is not significantly less imo. Also, with amd's fusion, allows the gpu to do a lot of the compute too so that basically makes up for the cpu performance decrease.
AMD APU's are the way to go for mainstream users right now.

lol please be more specific. what do you mean "allows the gpu to do a lot of the compute too ". please show me source that claims that the gpu for the fusion will do some cpu work...
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I never said you didnt know what you were talking about. You made it personal and anyway, the only thing that matters is that there is not going to be a considerable gain in performance over sandy bridge. You said much higher clocks and that is not much higher clocks.
If you dont want personal then dont bring up personal.

Well it appears that you did:
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[...] it is obvious that you dont know what your talking about[...]

In any case, 20% increase in frequency is rather large, and as I said, eventually, we can expect up to 2.5ghz Ivy as the line is perfected, and that's a huge 40% increase in clocks. Not to mention that leaked benchmarks point to Ivy having a 6%-15% IPC improvement. So yes, Intel's line will also boost both its GPU and CPU.
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Well it appears that you did:
In any case, 20% increase in frequency is rather large, and as I said, eventually, we can expect up to 2.5ghz Ivy as the line is perfected, and that's a huge 40% increase in clocks. Not to mention that leaked benchmarks point to Ivy having a 6%-15% IPC improvement. So yes, Intel's line will also boost both its GPU and CPU.

theres really no point of explaining any facts to the TC : /, its just gunna go in one ear and out the other. All he'll response with is "no you don't know what you're talking about, amd is the best, oh but i think they are both good...". Basically he'll dis you, then praise amd, then finally, claim fan boy neutrality.
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lol please be more specific. what do you mean "allows the gpu to do a lot of the compute too ". please show me source that claims that the gpu for the fusion will do some cpu work...

http://blogs.amd.com/fusion/2010/05/03/opencl%e2%84%a2-and-amd-fusion%e2%84%a2/

http://www.anandtech.com/print/4455

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Fusion

http://blogs.amd.com/fusion/2010/10/14/welcome-to-the-era-of-experience-computing/

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4455/amds-graphics-core-next-preview-amd-architects-for-compute

I will get more if you need. You heard of app acceleration, this is due to the gpu doing computing tasks.
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Intel is really upping its game in integrated graphics despite all the hate. Intel HD 3000 and HD 4000 were big leaps, and Intel iGPUs have come a long way.

Besides, even the earlier demo wasn't really cheating, the presenter admitted clearly that it was being streamed by someone from backstage.

As for AMD APUs, they do offer better graphical performance making them prime choices for gamers on budget, but they also give significantly worse CPU performance. Currently, Llano is not priced that competitively; and if Trinity is priced like Llano, I wouldn't think it will greatly challenge Intel.

Not to mention that for the average user CPU performance is much more important than GPU performance. Overall computer performance, browsing, creating documents and multimedia (both creation and usage) (in addition to popular MMOs) all rely much more heavily on the CPU than anything.

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Ok heres a serious question :
For someone who doesnt game at all , but still watch movies, web browse, do office work, music/pictures sharing etc ....... I dont know what would you prefer ?! a Better CPU or GPU!

Intel HD 3000 (let alone HD 4000) is plenty enough for 1600p playback. Every day usage relies much more heavily on CPU. Though a fast HDD, and especially a fast SSD play an immense role too for desktop performance.

A great CPU with high IPC (because most daily apps are lowly threaded), and a fast SSD give by far the best desktop performance.

He wasn't streaming it from backstage. He was playing a video file in VLC Media Player which lagged and was choppy on initial start.
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Well it appears that you did:
In any case, 20% increase in frequency is rather large, and as I said, eventually, we can expect up to 2.5ghz Ivy as the line is perfected, and that's a huge 40% increase in clocks. Not to mention that leaked benchmarks point to Ivy having a 6%-15% IPC improvement. So yes, Intel's line will also boost both its GPU and CPU.

Well if thats the case then I stand corrected. The last article I read on IB was the one I posted. So if there is performance increase then I apologize. Maybe it was just the desktops I was looking at. I have heard from several sources that IB performance wasnt going to change but if it is then I was wrong.
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theres really no point of explaining any facts to the TC : /, its just gunna go in one ear and out the other. All he'll response with is "no you don't know what you're talking about, amd is the best, oh but i think they are both good...". Basically he'll dis you, then praise amd, then finally, claim fan boy neutrality.

As for you, you dont know what your talking about let alone who you're talking to or who I am. I never said AMD was the best. Intel and AMD both have their strong points. Intel has the best CPU's right now obviously. AMD has the best GPU's right now obviously. Your obviously a fanboi of thinking you know who the hell I am. You act like you do but you dont and too bad you got that screen to hide behind. Why would I post a thread on Intel doing good if I didnt like them. Your statements dont make sense. I guess you got to talk tough words to make up for your childishness
Unlike you I am one to admit when I am wrong. But you you sit here and talk all this shhitt about me and you havent brought a single piece of evidence to the table. Grow up and stop acting like a tool.

You dont even know how to use your computer. Here let me help you

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=amd+fusion+gpu+computing

Stop acting like you know other people, your only making yourself look like a pud.
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He wasn't streaming it from backstage. He was playing a video file in VLC Media Player which lagged and was choppy on initial start.

CORRECT...
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my laptop uses a A8 3500M + HD 6620G.

Owning a top of the line Llano platform. i can say.. it's over all performance is a bit impressive.

it's not as snappy nor as responsive as other laptops.. but once it gets going.. it's a good APU.
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^ put an ssd in, mine has one and it's fasssssssssssssst!
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