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Im looking to make a wc loop might get a kit but want to make it look nice too is it possible to change the tubing with the rasa kit ? Will it decrease temps like a custom loop or close?
My CPU is at 70 C when in bf3 and oc @ 3.8Ghz..

Tubing is tubing and it's interhangable to whatever you want. thumb.gif

Tubing is defined by an ID or Inner Diameter and an OD or Outer Diameter. For barbs the Inner Diameter is the thing you need to worry about because the inner part of the tubing will go over the barb and create the seal. For Compression fittings, they are defined by both the ID AND OD which means that the tube will slip over a barb type of thing and then the outer part of the compression part will screw over the inner part and create an awesome looking fitting that is completely watertight without the need of a clamp or zip tie to keep the tubing on the barb. hopefully that made some sense lol
 
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the rasa rx240 is an excellant choice and will cool your cpu and gpu no problem...and of course you could add an extra 120 or 200 rad down the road if you wanted to...and i would advise buying diff tubing...the tubing that comes with the kit will turn yellow after a couple months...other than that it has everything you need...and yes it will perform as well as a custom loop...thats what it is..just al parts already matched up ready to go smile.gif
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My CPU is at 70 C when in bf3 and oc @ 3.8Ghz..

That is a bit too hot so you might want to find a few extra fans to move some air inside your case to cool down the heatsinks
 
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I'll need help with the fans and building all together
So the extra fans I should put on the rad and what will a second rad help with?
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Thank you for the help, I lost you in the diameter of the tubing though :S

No problem. The tubing sizes I would recommend are either

1/2" x 3/4"
7/16" x 5/8"
3/8" x 5/8"

Where the first number is the inner diameter (ID) and the second the outer diameter (OD). There is really no performance difference between the sizes, just looks and flexibility (the smaller tubing can curve in a tighter radius without kinking). I would avoid the thinner wall tubing like the 3/8" x 1/2" as it is more prone to kinking.

If you are using barbed fittings you need to match the ID of the tubing to the fitting and the OD of the tubing to the clamp. The only exception to this is if you use 7/16" tubing over 1/2" barbs; this provides a very tight seal without the need for clamps.
barb, clamp for 1/2" x 3/4" tubing
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If you are using compression fittings you need to match both the ID and OD of the tube to the fitting, there are no exceptions to this. So 3/8" x 5/8" tubing would require a 3/8" x 5/8" compression fitting.
example
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There is no difference in performance or security between barbs and compressions so long as each is fitted correctly, the only difference is looks and price - barbs are cheaper.

The Rasa kits come with the fittings you need - 1/2" barbs and some clamps - along with the tubing - 7/16" x 5/8" I believe. However if you want to add other components you will obviously need to buy fittings for them. Also if you want to replace the tubing it is good to use the same size as the kit, so that you don't have to replace all the fittings as well.
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I'll need help with the fans and building all together
So the extra fans I should put on the rad and what will a second rad help with?

i think he was saying your case seems to be running kinda hot and you need to address your fan positioning or direction to get some cooler air in there....the rasa kits come with fans that are matched to work well with the rad
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i think he was saying your case seems to be running kinda hot and you need to address your fan positioning or direction to get some cooler air in there....the rasa kits come with fans that are matched to work well with the rad

Sorry about that but yes the fans need to be adjusted a bit so there is better airflow inside the case which will help the radiators dissipate the heat better.
 
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Sorry about that but yes the fans need to be adjusted a bit so there is better airflow inside the case which will help the radiators dissipate the heat better.

this


if you go with a rasa kit you'll want to mount the rad so that the fans are pulling fresh cool air into it
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the rasa rx240 is an excellant choice and will cool your cpu and gpu no problem...and of course you could add an extra 120 or 200 rad down the road if you wanted to...and i would advise buying diff tubing...the tubing that comes with the kit will turn yellow after a couple months...other than that it has everything you need...and yes it will perform as well as a custom loop...thats what it is..just al parts already matched up ready to go smile.gif

So what if I just water cool my cpu until the GTX 700 series comes out and then I just get a reference card to make it easier to find a full cover block?

So if it alright if I just water cool my cpu now until the next gpu series comes out?

also will this tubing work with the RS240 kit as I am not sure if the RX240 will fit :S

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_853&products_id=17027

also lol will the RX240 fit in my case with my motherboard? or should I just get the RS240 to be safe? I want the best possible performance as well though but not if it doesn't fit.
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the rasa rx240 is an excellant choice and will cool your cpu and gpu no problem...and of course you could add an extra 120 or 200 rad down the road if you wanted to...and i would advise buying diff tubing...the tubing that comes with the kit will turn yellow after a couple months...other than that it has everything you need...and yes it will perform as well as a custom loop...thats what it is..just al parts already matched up ready to go smile.gif
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So anyway is this a good start for me?

XSPC Rasa 750 RS240 Universal CPU Water Cooling Kit

XSPC High Flex Hose, 1/2, Blue/UV Blue for tubing? I'm not sure how much I need but it is sold for $9.50 AUD per metre

In total with one metre of tubing and the RS240 kit it comes to $148.50 AUD to water cooling my cpu and get the nice new 1/2" tubing like you guys said also its UV/blue which is good because look, I have some nice new cold cathodes biggrin.gif

400

Also out of these which is the best for me; I like the black compression fittings.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=207_160_300&vk_sort=0

I am lost atm sorry :S

So basically I will be getting the RS240 XSPC kit, but I am still lost as to which fittings and tubing I need (not lost just need help picking some).
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Here is an example of a push/pull setup on a radiator and will create the best way to move air over the fins to help dissipate the heat.
 
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