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  • 63% (87)
    Only Steam
  • 0% (1)
    Only Origin
  • 3% (5)
    Neither
  • 32% (45)
    I really don't care as long as I get my game.
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Neither would be best but honestly using either of them makes no real difference too me.
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post #72 of 129
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Originally Posted by Princess Garnet View Post

I prefer Steam and trust Valve as a company more, so it's my preference, but I have little against EA or Origin. I use both.
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Originally Posted by GanjaSMK View Post

* Direct-to-PC distribution of only EA published games
This information is outdated. They're not like Steam, but even Steam started with just it's own games. It actually wasn't until, what, 2007 to 2008 that it's library really started growing? That wasn't that long ago.

The first feel I had launching Origin after the EA Download Manager updated was... "this is like a less capable but simpler Steam attempt". It's layout is nice and clean and it runs well. Going through the options felt eerily similar. Sure, it's lacking a lot of things, but you can definitely see it's taking from Steam, and I say that's a good thing.

Of course the clients are different, but if you think they aren't in competition, you're mistaken.

Origin isn't taking from Steam, they aren't selling games that they do not publish and they aren't competing. I am not mistaken.

Are you under the impression that they are because they sell some Source games? Valve published those through EA to get the Orange Box on consoles. Valve doesn't have any other source of publication for consoles. Well, not to say that they couldn't but it's obvious EA is a huge conglomerate that makes it's best revenue on the console side of their sales.

Would you explain how each delivery system is competing?
    
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There is the competition right there. Its just like when one store supplies item X but supplies item Y and another store right next to it supplies item X but not item Y. Then if one gets supplied with both X and Y then there is no need to go to the other store. smile.gif

Not the way I see it. They're apples and oranges to me. Competition means offering the same thing at competing prices. ISPs, for example. You're advocating for monopolies.

Well my maaning of competition is offering different products based on availability. If that makes any sense feel free to correct me. For me it's really late. (go to bed early, get up early)
     
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Steam has DotA 2, and I only play MOBAs tongue.gif
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post #75 of 129
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Origin isn't taking from Steam, they aren't selling games that they do not publish and they aren't competing. I am not mistaken.
Are you under the impression that they are because they sell some Source games? Valve published those through EA to get the Orange Box on consoles. Valve doesn't have any other source of publication for consoles. Well, not to say that they couldn't but it's obvious EA is a huge conglomerate that makes it's best revenue on the console side of their sales.
Would you explain how each delivery system is competing?
They are both digital distribution platforms. This isn't about if they are identical services; they obviously aren't and they obviously have different approaches and function, but it's not that hard to see that EA is learning/taking a bit from Valve/Steam in the PC digital distribution/client side of things, and they do have some crossover which makes it competition, no? Yes, they have different approaches and functions, but to say they aren't competing at all?

As for selling other games, I wasn't thinking of Valve's console games.

http://store.origin.com/

Maybe I'm wrong, but Batman Arkham City, Batman Arkham Asylum, and Saints Row: The Third aren't EA's, are they? That's just from one quick glance, although the vast majority of the rest all do appear EA-ish. I'd still count Valve's games too because they offer them (and it's not just the console versions). They also offer Popcap games, although they own them now. It's still an option of the service they provide. I recall it being said that they weren't just EA games anymore, but I could be wrong on that part.

Regardless, they still offer these services. I guess if those games don't count just because they are their own, then you can't count EA's games on Steam, nor came you count Valve's own games on Steam. Well, that'd be just ludicrous. You have to count them because they offer them. It's not so much about who makes/publishes it; it's about what they offer, and how they offer it. Sure, I agree that Valve/Steam is doing it better, but to say EA isn't in that space is just being too passive based on some details in my opinion. EA has good games (IMO), and a decent service (IMO), even if Steam is better. They can and may strong arm their way in with exclusive content using their own games not unlike how Valve did. There will be loud complaints at first, but there was with Steam too.
Edited by Princess Garnet - 1/15/12 at 5:53pm
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Origin Don't have any games I want to play,so Steam for me never a issue with Steam since 2004.thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Princess Garnet View Post

They are both digital distribution platforms. This isn't about if they are identical services; they obviously aren't and they obviously have different approaches and function, but it's not that hard to see that EA is learning/taking a bit from Valve/Steam in the PC digital distribution/client side of things, and they do have some crossover which makes it competition, no? Yes, they have different approaches and functions, but to say they aren't competing at all?
As for selling other games, I wasn't thinking of Valve's console games.
http://store.origin.com/
Maybe I'm wrong, but Batman Arkham City, Batman Arkham Asylum, and Saints Row: The Third aren't EA's, are they? That's just from one quick glance, although the vast majority of the rest all do appear EA-ish. I'd still count Valve's games too because they offer them (and it's not just the console versions). They also offer Popcap games, although they own them now. It's still an option of the service they provide. I recall it being said that they weren't just EA games anymore, but I could be wrong on that part.
Regardless, they still offer these services. I guess if those games don't count just because they are their own, then you can't count EA's games on Steam, nor came you count Valve's own games on Steam. Well, that'd be just ludicrous. You have to count them because they offer them. It's not so much about who makes/publishes it; it's about what they offer, and how they offer it. Sure, I agree that Valve/Steam is doing it better, but to say EA isn't in that space is just being too passive based on some details in my opinion. EA has good games (IMO), and a decent service (IMO), even if Steam is better. They can and may strong arm their way in with exclusive content using their own games not unlike how Valve did. There will be loud complaints at first, but there was with Steam too.

Steam and Origin are quite different services. If you can't see that (take no offense) but I challenge your logic. They aren't the same at all, as I've said, no matter how similar the delivery system of shopping for, selecting, purchasing, downloading, installing and then deploying the game may be.

Valve does not have competition from EA on the digital distribution front. Not at this point in time. EA has nothing to lose by removing themselves from distributing any or all titles from Valve's Steamworks services, but Valve has everything to lose by removing products from being published through EA. This is business, not competition. EA essentially does not support the PC community in any similar fashion that Valve does in the whole context of a business model.

Competition would be offering a GFWL type of service from EA (whether it be included with Origin or otherwise), that fully supports the PC community. EA has revenue sources from all over the place. Valve has essentially Steam making up the majority of it's revenue stream. Not to say Valve does not soak up sales outside of Steam, but the services around Steam are what you get when you purchase through Steam, offering a completely different experience on the PC than you get with Origin (as it is now).
    
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Steam and Origin are quite different services. If you can't see that (take no offense) but I challenge your logic.
I'm not saying that EA and Valve are the same and/or that Origin and Steam are the same. I stated the opposite; that they aren't.

At the same time, all I'm saying is that there is some crossover in that space as both offer a digital distribution platform and service, so by definition, that puts them in some level of competition there, no?

It might not be a direct one, EA might not be a "threat", the clients may differ, and EA and Valve may have different motives and backgrounds and reliance for revenue or whatnot, but that's really all a bunch of outlying factors (no?) that, while true, don't change what I'm saying that they both cover the same space and are in competition some. Two companies/situations/products/services/whatnot don't necessarily have to be the same in every way to be in some sort of competition to something else.

You seem like you may be mistaking me for saying something more than I am; that they are the same or something, when I'm not saying that.
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I'm not saying that EA and Valve are the same and/or that Origin and Steam are the same. I stated the opposite; that they aren't.
At the same time, all I'm saying is that there is some crossover in that space as both offer a digital distribution platform and service, so by definition, that puts them in some level of competition there, no?
It might not be a direct one, EA might not be a "threat", the clients may differ, and EA and Valve may have different motives and backgrounds and reliance for revenue or whatnot, but that's really all a bunch of outlying factors (no?) that, while true, don't change what I'm saying that they both cover the same space and are in competition some. Two companies/situations/products/services/whatnot don't necessarily have to be the same in every way to be in some sort of competition to something else.
You seem like you may be mistaking me for saying something more than I am; that they are the same or something, when I'm not saying that.

You can't lose/gain revenue to/from something that doesn't offer the same products that you do. There's not a "this or that" situation here, so it's not competition. There's no crossover if the games on Origin aren't also on Steam.
    
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