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Good morning, hope you'll have a lovely week , let's begin with the official AMD K8L 65nm SOI presentation.
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In the beginning of September, AMD has shared its latest plans with representatives of Moscow IT mass media.
More here.
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Hmm, its funny because AMD is bagging intel's bandwidth. AMD must've been desparate to do this.
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Hmm, its funny because AMD is bagging intel's bandwidth. AMD must've been desparate to do this.
Come on mate, don't turn this in a fanboy combat, you're well aware that competition drives performance foward and prices down. Want the E6600 to slip towards the 200$ price point? Wait for the K8L launch and the effect will be similar to the effect of the Conroe launch over the AMD cpus.
The point is that this finaly shows the real improvements that are gonna be made:
- native quad core
- shared L3 cache
- increased asociativity of the L1 cache
- increased bandwidth between L1 and L2 cache (from 64bit K8 to 256bit K8L)
- 128 bit FPU (like the core2)
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Hmm, its funny because AMD is bagging intel's bandwidth. AMD must've been desparate to do this.
Not to mention that tests on Kentsfield/Cloverton have revealed no difference in performance between 1066 and 1333FSB. So Intel has not saturated its FSB bandwidth (yet) with quad cores. So these FSB "bottlenecks" that AMD is talking about are non-existant.
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Not to mention that tests on Kentsfield/Cloverton have revealed no difference in performance between 1066 and 1333FSB. So Intel has not saturated its FSB bandwidth (yet) with quad cores. So these FSB "bottlenecks" that AMD is talking about are non-existant.
The test you're talking about were made using single CPU, but what about the servers that use 2 CPUs? I'm not that sure the affirmation still stands up. Some tests I've seen with 2P servers show that the new CPUs are likely to saturate the mem bus in some circumstances, not to mention the 4P servers that desperately need 1333FSB.
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Does Conroe have shared L3 cache? If so how big is it?
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No, actualy Conroe dual-core does not have a L3 cache at all, and neither does the quad-core Kentsfield. The quads have around 4-8Mb L2 cache, dependind on the model chosen.
As a side note - The Conroe does not need L3 cache as it has unified L2 cache, but Kentsfield (which is made up from 2 conroes stucked together) would benefit from the adition of a L3 cache.
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Is this K8L the socket F (1207pin lga)
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post #9 of 42
It's looking good. No mention of direct performance increases though. Just power usage and bandwidth. However, being able to control individual cores will allow us Overclockers to push each core as far as it will go
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Agreed with Jester. If we run a single-threaded program we can save some power there.
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