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This points out toward other issues, not PSU related... do a driver update, or rollback if you installed new ones recently.

I've tried several drivers, the newest beta, the newest stable, the previous stable, and the stable before that one.

I've been playing a game now for maybe 20 minutes without a crash... Not sure why, but we'll see.
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As has been said, software-based voltage monitoring is useless. Your computer would not be running at all if your PSU was delivering only 9.83V on the +12V.
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hmm..does that video card require a 6-pin? 1 or 2...
 
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As has been said, software-based voltage monitoring is useless. Your computer would not be running at all if your PSU was delivering only 9.83V on the +12V.

While this is true, I'd bet his PSU is likely the problem. That's a 200w at best unit if I remember correctly, and it likes to go "boom" (literally) at about 250w. For $45, you should be able to get a Corsair CX430, Rosewill 430 Green, or Antec EA430 Green with shipping included.
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Reference 450's take only one 6-pin power lead, which is already overkill if you're not overclocking it, supposedly the card draws 110W max, can't the pci-e slot provide 150W? confused.gif In saying that though, the card is pre-overclocked, maybe pushing it past that limit...

Anyway, have you tried stressing the PSU on a hot day? Maybe it needs time to warm up and overheat before it crashes, possibly explaining the delay before prior crashes... Is the PSU fan unclogged and operational?
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Reference 450's take only one 6-pin power lead, which is already overkill if you're not overclocking it, supposedly the card draws 110W max, can't the pci-e slot provide 150W? confused.gif In saying that though, the card is pre-overclocked, maybe pushing it past that limit...
Anyway, have you tried stressing the PSU on a hot day? Maybe it needs time to warm up and overheat before it crashes, possibly explaining the delay before prior crashes... Is the PSU fan unclogged and operational?

hmm..pre-overclocked..i'd try lowering clocks/voltage there..the board looks solid..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817170017 <<has 450w on the 12v rail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817339022 hmm..18A on 12v..:thinking.gif:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817709025 40a split between 2 rails

eh ..choices are not abundant...
 
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While this is true, I'd bet his PSU is likely the problem. That's a 200w at best unit if I remember correctly, and it likes to go "boom" (literally) at about 250w. For $45, you should be able to get a Corsair CX430, Rosewill 430 Green, or Antec EA430 Green with shipping included.

This.

Another vote for that Corsair CX430. Look at what it's powering in my rig. My rig is no beast but with everything oc'ed to the max I'm sure it draws close to 450 maybe 480 watts.

cpu vcore 1.52v BIOS
RAM 2.32v BIOS
gpu 1.807v running 921 on the core 2100 memory

Lowest I've seen the 12v rail go was 11.97 running Prime95 64-bit.

In other words : This little guy can handle quite a bit. Could for sure deal steady power to your rig with everything fully overclocked.

*And in case anyone is inclined to mention it: Yes, I know this is not a "true" gaming psu. I'm not buying a new one until I finish getting everything for my next build or until I kill this one...whichever comes first.*
 
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@crashdummy35:
Your rig is pulling MAYBE 250-300w. Nowhere near the limits of the unit. wink.gif
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@crashdummy35:
Your rig is pulling MAYBE 250-300w. Nowhere near the limits of the unit. wink.gif

The unit is a cheap imitation of a PSU, in reality it's nowhere near capable of it's rated 400W.
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Originally Posted by Goof245 View Post

Reference 450's take only one 6-pin power lead, which is already overkill if you're not overclocking it, supposedly the card draws 110W max, can't the pci-e slot provide 150W? confused.gif In saying that though, the card is pre-overclocked, maybe pushing it past that limit...
Anyway, have you tried stressing the PSU on a hot day? Maybe it needs time to warm up and overheat before it crashes, possibly explaining the delay before prior crashes... Is the PSU fan unclogged and operational?

I live in the Black Hills of South Dakota, US in the middle of winter, there are no hot days.
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As has been said, software-based voltage monitoring is useless. Your computer would not be running at all if your PSU was delivering only 9.83V on the +12V.

I was thinking the same thing. Wouldn't make sense for the PC to keep running if it knows there is a danger.
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Originally Posted by Schmuckley View Post

hmm..does that video card require a 6-pin? 1 or 2...

1 6-pin.





I played Tribes: Ascend last night for a good three hours without issues until the game crashed for a game issue, not a system issue. This was after I completely took it apart, including removing the mobo, checked every wire for cracks, cuts or any other damage, did a little more cable management, added a Scythe Ultra Kaze to the back for exhaust after moving the factory 120mm into the top bays for intake, and put it all back together again.

So maybe there was something loose somewhere that I had missed. But it seems to be running fine now. I also uninstalled and reinstalled the latest stable driver as well.

I'm going to be gaming today, so I'll see what happens.


One more thing:

What do you think of the Ultra X Connect PSU's? A friend of mine has one he'd give/sell to me for cheap, but it has none of the modular cables with it. Any where to buy them besides from Ultra? The cable set is almost as much as a new PSU. Any idea if other cables will fit that PSU? It's an Ultra ULT-VX600.
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