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You'd be surprised the difference between an early C2 Phenom and the Zosma cored 960T.Miles apart actually.From the IMC to the low tdp and overclockability he would notice a big boost,trust me.

i upgraded from phenom 9950 to 960t and to be honest its not very big difference
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i upgraded from phenom 9950 to 960t and to be honest its not very big difference

Phenom I -> Phenom II is a huge jump. I'll admit that different Phenom IIs (excluding the rebranded Athlons with no L3) are practically identical in performance per clock, but Phenom I were pretty horrendous clockers, so what were you looking at when comparing them?

Here's a set of benchmarks with a 9850 (one step lower than your previous one), and a 955 (which is generally worse than the 960T, and cannot unlock to a six core):

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/phenom2_955/4.htm

You will notice it's 25% as fast again in most benchmarks. Occasionally coming up to be twice as fast, but largely sitting at the 25% faster mark.

That's going from 2.5 Ghz stock to 3.2 Ghz stock (approximating 25% increase).

Sure, if you ran them at the same frequencies, they would give you similar performance, but Phenom II will generally clock to 3.8 - 4.2 Ghz, almost regardless of stepping/chip. Deneb and Thuban are both pretty high clockers.



To the OP:
Similarly, what you should do is work out what games you play. Most of the ones you list are dual-core limited. If you get the 960T, you will not notice a huge gain in any of them... but will be better equipped to play any games that can utilize six cores in the future. Is it worth it?
Probably not.


On the other hand, if it does unlock, you'll have at least double the power. Possibly more post-overclock. If it doesn't unlock... Then you've gained a tiny upgrade for a fair amount of money. You might hit 4 Ghz on them (I hear a lot of people do), and so you'll have paid around $100 for a 0.6Ghz clockspeed bump. About 1/5 of your current clockspeed - so in a game where you're limited by CPU to say, 25 fps, you'll reach about 30. If you're limited any lower (unlikely, but possible), then you won't be reaching those playable fps limits.


Ultimately, I'm going to suggest saving for a 2500k. It really is the best performing, and it runs circles around any AMD processor in a CPU-bound game. Usually netting double the total performance of an AMD quad core, and half as much again as a hexacore (when all six threads can be used).
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Again thanks for all the input guys. I think I'm actually going to go with the 960t specially if I can find it on sale somewhere next weekend.
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