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(Hear me out. I know the differences between 570 and 580, this isnt really my question.) Friday is my payday, that doesnt go to rent/bills. I need some second opinions by Friday.I know it says in my sig that I am waiting. I'm awaiting for Kepler to get released, till I buy either next-gen card.



But for now, I gotta have SOMETHING, to bring peace and justice to the world of Battlefield.

-First choice, get the PNY 580 for $430-$460. That's it. Done deal. Back to the battleground.

http://www.frys.com/product/6459102?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

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-Second choice, get a NEW motherboard (MSI P67), and the Asus 570 DCII. Togethor around $450-$470.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130583
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121432&Tpk=asus%20570
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Leaning towards the 2nd option right now. Because the motherboard I have now, is just so....basic? The MSI board gives me another PCIe 2.0 slot too. also gives me the option to add in more devices, such as an internal audio interface, for recording. Will update, as I am currently researching more.

Update: Games I play are BF3, Skyrim (who doesn't), TF2, Final Fantasy 14, and getting either SW: TOR or GW2, soon. Games I play ocassionally play are Dead Space, Portal 2, and Dirt 2.
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Get a 580 or a 570. No point on a new mobo just to play bf3.
    
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I never said I wanted to JUST play Battlefield 3. Sorry if it came off that way.

I updated the post, for other example games, as well as my reasoning for considering a MB upgrade.
    
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Get the GTX 560ti 448.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121480

Virtually identical performance to the GTX 570 for about 15% less.
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Well, the new motherboard DOES give you a lot more expand ability, and offers a lot more overclocking potential, which would be my reason to buy it, as im sure you are saying to, but simply do not have the words to say it. Personally, i would go with the Mobo and 570, HOWEVER if your PC is only being used for games, and youtube and general browsing and such, there is really no reason to buy a new motherboard. Not to mention your going to have to reinstall the OS if you switch your motherboard. Personally, my 250 dollar investment into a high end motherboard is not really worth it, i use about half the functions of the board. and thats me not just playing games. i render multi media, i record music, i use it as my everything PC. so if your just playing games, then just grab a 580, unless your going to SLI the next Gen Nvidia cards, then by all means grab the board and 570, and although i normally would agree to the 560 Ti 448 Core edition, in this case, im going to have to say, nothing less than a GTX 570, because BF3 sucks up soo much VRAM, and is so demanding. My 5970 has a hard time keeping up ONLY because it doesnt have enough VRAM per GPU. 1280MB VRAM will at least get you more AA , where as i have to set it to none.
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Ew MSI.

If you are going to get a new motherboard then get this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

Much better quality with good quality VRM's.

Supports PCI-E 3.0 unlike your MSI motherboard you have chosen. Why wait for Kepler if you don't even have a motherboard that supports PCI-E 3.0? Of course there is only a minor performance gain but still. Every bit counts..

Z68 chipset over the P67 chipset. Minor differences but the Z68 is a newer chipset and has a few more minor features.

Supports 8x/8x dual mode PCI-E for both CFX and SLI.

Not to even mention it looks badass with the black and gold.. and for like? $10 more. If you really are on a budget there is also an open box one.
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Well, the new motherboard DOES give you a lot more expand ability, and offers a lot more overclocking potential, which would be my reason to buy it, as im sure you are saying to, but simply do not have the words to say it. Personally, i would go with the Mobo and 570, HOWEVER if your PC is only being used for games, and youtube and general browsing and such, there is really no reason to buy a new motherboard. Not to mention your going to have to reinstall the OS if you switch your motherboard. Personally, my 250 dollar investment into a high end motherboard is not really worth it, i use about half the functions of the board. and thats me not just playing games. i render multi media, i record music, i use it as my everything PC. so if your just playing games, then just grab a 580, unless your going to SLI the next Gen Nvidia cards, then by all means grab the board and 570, and although i normally would agree to the 560 Ti 448 Core edition, in this case, im going to have to say, nothing less than a GTX 570, because BF3 sucks up soo much VRAM, and is so demanding. My 5970 has a hard time keeping up ONLY because it doesnt have enough VRAM per GPU. 1280MB VRAM will at least get you more AA , where as i have to set it to none.

Well I stated in the OP, that I record music as well. I'm however a noob when it comes to strictly motherboards, and I had no idea that I would have to reinstall everything. I thought it was a BIOS thingamabob, or whatever. So that's kind of a drag. puke.gif

I thought the 560 Ti 448 Cores had 1280MB VRAM...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130739
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Regardless, I still agree in a way. I would prefer a minimum of 480 CUDA Cores. thinking.gif
    
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Well I stated in the OP, that I record music as well. I'm however a noob when it comes to strictly motherboards, and I had no idea that I would have to reinstall everything. I thought it was a BIOS thingamabob, or whatever. So that's kind of a drag. puke.gif
I thought the 560 Ti 448 Cores had 1280MB VRAM...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130739
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Regardless, I still agree in a way. I would prefer a minimum of 480 CUDA Cores. thinking.gif

You don't have to reinstall everything with only a motherboard change. Chances are in your favor that everything will still work great. I went through 3 motherboard changes at one point without reinstalling anything and not having any issues.

It is recommended however.. to reinstall everything when you get a new motherboard. If you change platforms (AMD > Intel) or vice versa, then you must always reinstall everything or it just simply won't work period.
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You don't have to reinstall everything with only a motherboard change. Chances are in your favor that everything will still work great. I went through 3 motherboard changes at one point without reinstalling anything and not having any issues.
It is recommended however.. to reinstall everything when you get a new motherboard. If you change platforms (AMD > Intel) or vice versa, then you must always reinstall everything or it just simply won't work period.

I hope you're right! Because I really am starting to lean towards a new MB. I'm sick of recording my guitar through a USB 2.0 audio interface. Impossible to get zero latency, during a live recording mad.gif
    
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I hope you're right! Because I really am starting to lean towards a new MB. I'm sick of recording my guitar through a USB 2.0 audio interface. Impossible to get zero latency, during a live recording mad.gif

I am right. Seriously though, if you are going to get a new motherboard please please please do not get the one you have posted. I would take a look at the one I posted for you. It is probably the best motherboard at it's price point.
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