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typical nvidia. spreading rumors so people won't buy the amd 7 series cards. we're not idiots nvidia lol

All I can say about this thread is

WOODSCREWS

Remember when NV did this scummy stuff before Fermi? Yeah, saying Fermi was ready in Feb 09 and then it released more than a year later rolleyes.gif
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typical nvidia. spreading rumors so people won't buy the amd 7 series cards. we're not idiots nvidia lol

The only treason not to buy HD 7970 is price and or you are waiting for something better.
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The only treason not to buy HD 7970 is price and or you are waiting for something better.

I just wish NV would confirm something or deny it. I'm so sick of fake slides already! I'll definitely buy the high end kepler on day 1 but, all of these rumors are annoying.

First there's a slide showing kepler released in Q2 12. Then there was the fake fud slide showing release in Nov 11. Then april 12. Then Feb '12.

Seriously WTH! So annoying. The rumor date changes every day and there's no concrete info from NV, I have a hard time believing any of it. Extrapolating how long it typically takes a product to reach market after tapeout, i'd say second half '12 at best. But thats just my opinion
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All I can say about this thread is
WOODSCREWS
Remember when NV did this scummy stuff before Fermi? Yeah, saying Fermi was ready in Feb 09 and then it released more than a year later rolleyes.gif

Got to love thous WOODSCREWS biggrin.gif
    
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I was actually more/less making a point about expectations.
Right now, soft to soft, it is a 23% TO a 78% difference...That doesn't make that slide nor the mean, 78%...
In fact, your only as strong as the weakest link in this world...so, yes, a 23% minimum improvement is still under Nvidia's 480-580 gain last year.
I don't need to read considering I already have the 7970s and have had samples for months...Like I said, you're only as strong as your weakest link and the weakest link right now, NOT OC'D is 15%...
If Nvidia's next gen's lowest scaled improvement is 25%...According to you, that's a failure and it's absolutely far from.
In my eye, ATI's improvement from last gen is only 23%...Sorry but, that's reality.

At launch there were several benchmarks that had the gain from 480-580 at less then 20% so going by your logic its still a better increase for the 6970-7970. thumb.gif
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At launch there were several benchmarks that had the gain from 480-580 at less then 20% so going by your logic its still a better increase for the 6970-7970. thumb.gif

6970-7970 is twice as big at the worst compared to 480-580. it's not even worth discussing.
Edited by PureBlackFire - 1/17/12 at 10:46am
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At launch there were several benchmarks that had the gain from 480-580 at less then 20% so going by your logic its still a better increase for the 6970-7970. thumb.gif

yet 480 -> 580 is 40nm to 40nm while 6970 to 7970 is 40nm to 28nm...

AMD sacrificed both maximum potential gaming performance and load power usage with GCN in order to vastly improve their HPC performance

since nVidia has long since established their GPU designs in regards to HPC performance, they have quite a bit of room to distance themselves in terms of brute performance if they continue with their typical monster GPU sizes, for example nVidia's flagships have averaged over 500mm^2 while AMD has averaged around ~350mm^2, which is where the 7970 currently sits (352 to be precise)
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All i can say is a similar thing happened with Fermi, they rushed it out and it was rubbish (powerful but power hungry and ran super hot) so hpoefully this time they will not have the same probems
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I was actually more/less making a point about expectations.
Right now, soft to soft, it is a 23% TO a 78% difference...That doesn't make that slide nor the mean, 78%...
In fact, your only as strong as the weakest link in this world...so, yes, a 23% minimum improvement is still under Nvidia's 480-580 gain last year.
I don't need to read considering I already have the 7970s and have had samples for months...Like I said, you're only as strong as your weakest link and the weakest link right now, NOT OC'D is 15%...
If Nvidia's next gen's lowest scaled improvement is 25%...According to you, that's a failure and it's absolutely far from.
In my eye, ATI's improvement from last gen is only 23%...Sorry but, that's reality.

lol mate. the weakest link between 480/580 is even less than 10%. 23% maybe in the best exceptional cases.
But the average is 15-18% which is good for a product refresh.
The 580 was just a refresh with higher clocks & better cooler than the 480.
However the GTX 680 Is a whole new architecture & should have outstanding performance compared to the 580.
You're considering the weakest link in your judgment. But what all I care about is average link. If it is 35-40% better then it is very good. I don't care about lowest scaled improvement though.
Actually your weakest link judgment is a little bit flawed. I can test Half Life 2 with both a 580 an a 590 and get 300 fps with both and say the difference is 0 percent between them thumb.gif.

I don't want GTX 680 to be another Bulldozer TBH lol smile.gif .
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