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I hope they wont make HL3 for multyplatform .... just PC plz.

Valve will never make a pc exclusive game again, unless its a game like dota that can only be played on the pc.
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HL1/2 weren't PC exclusive they wer on ps2 so HL3 most likely wont be.
     
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Guys I m not complaining, portal 2 was pretty decent graphically. I would not expect Valve to release something as half baked as Hard Reset, as decent as it is. I dont know of another dev that is as consistent as valve in making great gameplay. this will always be the most important. But I believe what happens with hl3 will set the tone for valves accomplishments for 2010 and beyond. Realistically, by the time hl3 arrives, it will be a decade since hl2. For the most part, (aside from the additions you speak of) it is not hard to see portal 2 is based on the same tech as hl2. If hl3 looks like this, then I think its pretty poor progression for what will be possible in 2014. Look at the next Unreal engine.
This is no argument on hl3s gameplay which I m sure will be incredible.

I do not think valve games have that great gameplay at all other that portal. Also good gameplay is no excuse for obsolete graphics. I am not amazed at the graphics of portal 2, I am amazed that the game doesn't look downright ugly considering how old the engine is. However almost every other current game in my library has better graphics that portal 2 and some of these games are made by indie studios. Im not arguing for dx11, though that done properly would be breathtaking. But look at games like Witcher 2, great game, great story, dx9 but the graphics are awesome and beat a host of dx11 games and it was made by a indie studio with 6 million dollars. I expect better from valve, especially the way people praise them as the best studio ever.
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I do not think valve games have that great gameplay at all other that portal. Also good gameplay is no excuse for obsolete graphics. I am not amazed at the graphics of portal 2, I am amazed that the game doesn't look downright ugly considering how old the engine is. However almost every other current game in my library has better graphics that portal 2 and some of these games are made by indie studios. Im not arguing for dx11, though that done properly would be breathtaking. But look at games like Witcher 2, great game, great story, dx9 but the graphics are awesome and beat a host of dx11 games and it was made by a indie studio with 6 million dollars. I expect better from valve, especially the way people praise them as the best studio ever.

Valve games never had good graphics.
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Valve games never had good graphics.

Um HL was at least on par with the industry when it came out and HL2 had amazing graphics when it came out. So im not sure what your talking about.
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Valve games never had good graphics.

Riou,you're a bit wrong there. Just like sausageson said, Half-Life had good graphics and Half-Life 2 had amazing graphics when they were released.

Of course, compared to Crysis, that came out the same year as Episode 2, Valve's engine was starting to look dated, and is probably also one of the reasons they decided to postpone the last episode to improve the engine. Ever since they have not released their big name game, just multiplayer games, that really benefit more from having a stable and reliable engine more than cutting-edge graphics. The Portal series is starting to become a big name for them too, but it's more focused on getting the physics right, which it does.

But then again, it's not only about graphics. When they demonstrated the G-Man talking in the Half-Life 2 presentation everybody was in awe. Facial animation is also a great part of the experience, making it realistic, immersive. Physics is another great feature. Using the gravity gun to pick up objects and manipulating then or throwing them, enemies throwing barrels at you, makes the game not only pricelessly fun to play but also adds realism. All that is why Garry's Mod is so famous.

Take RAGE for example, it supposedly should have great graphics, but has crappy physics. All objects are unmovable. You can't even break them by shooting at them. Feels like a game from more than 10 years ago. Characters in RAGE don't even move to look at you if you move behind them when they are talking to you. Valve got that right a long time ago.
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Um HL was at least on par with the industry when it came out and HL2 had amazing graphics when it came out. So im not sure what your talking about.

So Valve games do have good graphics after all. wink.gif
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Valve is privately owned, they don't have to release anything.
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Valve games never had good graphics.



Valve games have pretty good graphics considering the dated engine they're running on.

 

 

 

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I do not think valve games have that great gameplay at all other that portal. Also good gameplay is no excuse for obsolete graphics. I am not amazed at the graphics of portal 2, I am amazed that the game doesn't look downright ugly considering how old the engine is. However almost every other current game in my library has better graphics that portal 2 and some of these games are made by indie studios. Im not arguing for dx11, though that done properly would be breathtaking. But look at games like Witcher 2, great game, great story, dx9 but the graphics are awesome and beat a host of dx11 games and it was made by a indie studio with 6 million dollars. I expect better from valve, especially the way people praise them as the best studio ever.

Looking at witcher screen shots the majority of that prettiness is all textures, Any studio can make nice textures, Jericho had great textures and its also dx9. You say the engine is dated, but you don't state how or where? yea its old, but its not really dated in comparison to gfx because dx9 is dx9 no matter what engine its on. Graphics aren't made by the engine they are made by the artist's. Everyone's throwing out the phrase "dated engine" but no one is stating where and how its dated compared to new engines.
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