Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › FX-4100 4.6Ghz vs Phenom X4 9950 3.0Ghz in CB 11.5
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

FX-4100 4.6Ghz vs Phenom X4 9950 3.0Ghz in CB 11.5 - Page 3

post #21 of 42
At 3.6 the fx 4100 scores 2.97 (http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1766/9/) . It also doesnt make sense that at 4.6 .. +28% overclock, would only give a 19% increase in performance. So basically your comparing a really good score to a really low one hah
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8150 - 4.90 ghz  GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD7 (Rev. 1.1) XFX 6990 + Accelero Twin Turbo 6990 cooler 24/7... 8192 MB - OC 1988 9-9-9-24-1T Team Xtreem 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
240 GB Revodrive 3 X2 Windows 7 SP1 1000 W OCZ ZX series - 80 Gold HAF 932 - Windy Tunnel - 22 Fans 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8150 - 4.90 ghz  GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD7 (Rev. 1.1) XFX 6990 + Accelero Twin Turbo 6990 cooler 24/7... 8192 MB - OC 1988 9-9-9-24-1T Team Xtreem 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
240 GB Revodrive 3 X2 Windows 7 SP1 1000 W OCZ ZX series - 80 Gold HAF 932 - Windy Tunnel - 22 Fans 
  hide details  
Reply
post #22 of 42
Quote:
Originally Posted by polyzp View Post

the phenom score is awfully high,

this q6600 at 3.6 ghz only scores 3.03. Since when does phenom core @ 3 ghz wipe the floor with core2quad? Somethis is amyss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RySb52IRnGQ

No its not. That idiot was also using screen recording software, which severely harmed his score. Note in the comments, somebody was hitting 4.11 with their Q6600 at only 3.4GHz.
Junkyard
(18 items)
 
NAStradamous
(12 items)
 
HTPC01
(16 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2320 @ 3.1GHz MSI B75MA-E33 HIS HD7970 3GB @ 1050 / 1700, 1.17v Patriot 2x4GB DDR3-1066 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial MX100 256GB WD Green 2TB DVDRW Corsair H50 Push / Pull 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
NZXT 120mm fans strapped to stock 7970 cooler Windows 10 Pro Dell 3007WFP Dell 2007FP 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell 2007FP Cheap Toshiba (R.I.P. Ducky) PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKIII 950w Cheap Garbage (free) 
MouseAudio
Logitech G602 Yardsale Special 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3330 Asus H61 MSI GTX 750Ti Low Profile 2x4GB Hynix DDR3-1333 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
60GB Kingston SSD 1TB Seagate Samsung DVDRW CoolerMaster Gemin II 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8.1 + Steam Big Picture / Plex HT 50" Insignia LED 1080p Logitech Rosewill Green 530w 
CaseMouseAudioOther
Silverstone HTPC Logitech Pioneer 2.0 tower speakers + 135w RMS Rosewill MCE Remote 
  hide details  
Reply
Junkyard
(18 items)
 
NAStradamous
(12 items)
 
HTPC01
(16 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2320 @ 3.1GHz MSI B75MA-E33 HIS HD7970 3GB @ 1050 / 1700, 1.17v Patriot 2x4GB DDR3-1066 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial MX100 256GB WD Green 2TB DVDRW Corsair H50 Push / Pull 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
NZXT 120mm fans strapped to stock 7970 cooler Windows 10 Pro Dell 3007WFP Dell 2007FP 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell 2007FP Cheap Toshiba (R.I.P. Ducky) PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKIII 950w Cheap Garbage (free) 
MouseAudio
Logitech G602 Yardsale Special 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3330 Asus H61 MSI GTX 750Ti Low Profile 2x4GB Hynix DDR3-1333 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
60GB Kingston SSD 1TB Seagate Samsung DVDRW CoolerMaster Gemin II 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8.1 + Steam Big Picture / Plex HT 50" Insignia LED 1080p Logitech Rosewill Green 530w 
CaseMouseAudioOther
Silverstone HTPC Logitech Pioneer 2.0 tower speakers + 135w RMS Rosewill MCE Remote 
  hide details  
Reply
post #23 of 42
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by polyzp View Post

At 3.6 the fx 4100 scores 2.97 (http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1766/9/) . It also doesnt make sense that at 4.6 .. +28% overclock, would only give a 19% increase in performance. So basically your comparing a really good score to a really low one hah

Even assuming the best case scenario FX-4100 only gets 3.78 @ 4.6ghz. If you read the thread you would know that my score is a little low on FX, that score is still low if you consider the FX-4100 a real quad core (in comparison to Agena or Deneb).
μRyzen
(12 items)
 
Mini Box
(4 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen R5 1400 MSI B350M Gaming Pro Zotac GTX 670 4GB G.SKILL FORTIS Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 
Hard DriveCoolingOSOS
WD Green 3tb Wraith Stealth Windows 10 Debian 8.7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerMouse
ViewSonic VX-2257-8 Chinese backlit mechanical Kingwin 850w Chinese laser optical 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 5350 Asus AM1I-A EVGA GTX 750 Ti SC 2x4GB DDR 3 1333 
  hide details  
Reply
μRyzen
(12 items)
 
Mini Box
(4 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen R5 1400 MSI B350M Gaming Pro Zotac GTX 670 4GB G.SKILL FORTIS Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 
Hard DriveCoolingOSOS
WD Green 3tb Wraith Stealth Windows 10 Debian 8.7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerMouse
ViewSonic VX-2257-8 Chinese backlit mechanical Kingwin 850w Chinese laser optical 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 5350 Asus AM1I-A EVGA GTX 750 Ti SC 2x4GB DDR 3 1333 
  hide details  
Reply
post #24 of 42
the scaling from single to 4 cores makes no sense, it shouldn't be more than 4.

Phenom_II_X4_980_Cinebench.png

all the quads under 4, so probably your single core score was affected by something with the Phenom
Current PC
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 3GHz OEM Pegatron h61 HD 5850 @ 925MHz 8GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung 1tb C2D e6300 Intel HSF Win10 HP 19" 
KeyboardMouseAudio
generic AT with PS/2 adapter wheel mouse optical 1.1 alc 662 
  hide details  
Reply
Current PC
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 3GHz OEM Pegatron h61 HD 5850 @ 925MHz 8GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung 1tb C2D e6300 Intel HSF Win10 HP 19" 
KeyboardMouseAudio
generic AT with PS/2 adapter wheel mouse optical 1.1 alc 662 
  hide details  
Reply
post #25 of 42
...
Current PC
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 3GHz OEM Pegatron h61 HD 5850 @ 925MHz 8GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung 1tb C2D e6300 Intel HSF Win10 HP 19" 
KeyboardMouseAudio
generic AT with PS/2 adapter wheel mouse optical 1.1 alc 662 
  hide details  
Reply
Current PC
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 3GHz OEM Pegatron h61 HD 5850 @ 925MHz 8GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung 1tb C2D e6300 Intel HSF Win10 HP 19" 
KeyboardMouseAudio
generic AT with PS/2 adapter wheel mouse optical 1.1 alc 662 
  hide details  
Reply
post #26 of 42
Weird. Try disabling odd-numbered cores and see what the Cinebench is on 2 cores. I'm guessing it's well over half of the score on 4 cores.
 
Lanbox Lite
(16 items)
 
 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
i3-2310M Intel HD 3000 8GB DDR3 Samsung 830 64GB SSD 
Hard DriveOSMonitorCase
640GB Hitachi HDD Windows 7 13.3" LCD Magnesium Alloy, 3.2lbs 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X4 955 BE Gigabyte GA-MA78GPM-UD2H MSI Hawk R5770 3x2GB G.Skill DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 250 GB WD Caviar Black Samsung 20X DVD-R/RW Thermaltake MaxOrb 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Noctua NF-B9-1600 Windows 7 Pro 64-bit BenQ E2420HD, 24" 1920x1080 TT Purepower 500W 
Case
TT Lanbox Lite 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Lanbox Lite
(16 items)
 
 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
i3-2310M Intel HD 3000 8GB DDR3 Samsung 830 64GB SSD 
Hard DriveOSMonitorCase
640GB Hitachi HDD Windows 7 13.3" LCD Magnesium Alloy, 3.2lbs 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X4 955 BE Gigabyte GA-MA78GPM-UD2H MSI Hawk R5770 3x2GB G.Skill DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 250 GB WD Caviar Black Samsung 20X DVD-R/RW Thermaltake MaxOrb 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Noctua NF-B9-1600 Windows 7 Pro 64-bit BenQ E2420HD, 24" 1920x1080 TT Purepower 500W 
Case
TT Lanbox Lite 
  hide details  
Reply
post #27 of 42
another piledriver failure thread lol!
 
Simba
(16 items)
 
Gulftown Memories
(16 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @3.6GHz Asus Maximus II Formula EVGA GTX 570 @900 Core 4GB (aww yea) GeiL Black Dragons 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
128GB Crucial M4 Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200.14 2TB Western Digital Red 1TB Western Digital Caviar Green 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
ASUS DVD R/RW SATA x24 Prolimatech Megahalems Boss Status 2x 1850rpm Scythe Gentle Typhoons 2x Sanyo Denki San Ace 9G1212H1011 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
1x Scythe Ultra Kaze 3k Windows 8 Pro Dell S2740 27 Inch IPS Das Keyboard 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
NZXT Hale90 1000W Antec P280 Steelseries Sensei Steelseries QCK Mini 
AudioOther
Fiio E9 to Asus Xonar DX (headphone amp AND DAC) Sennheiser HD598 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3770K @ 5GHz 1.43V Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 TB MSI Twinfrozr III 7870 2x4GB Samsung Wonder Ram 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
128GB Crucial M4 1TB Caviar Blue, 640GB Caviar Blue 2x2TB Western Digital Reds coming Prolimatech Megahalems w/ 2x San Ace H1011's pu... 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8 Pro 32 inch Toshiba LCD, 24 inch Dell ST2412L Coolermaster Quickfire Rapid Antec Truepower New 750W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Antec P280 Razer Deathadder 1800dpi frankenstein! just hdmi audio to the tv for now 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Simba
(16 items)
 
Gulftown Memories
(16 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @3.6GHz Asus Maximus II Formula EVGA GTX 570 @900 Core 4GB (aww yea) GeiL Black Dragons 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
128GB Crucial M4 Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200.14 2TB Western Digital Red 1TB Western Digital Caviar Green 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
ASUS DVD R/RW SATA x24 Prolimatech Megahalems Boss Status 2x 1850rpm Scythe Gentle Typhoons 2x Sanyo Denki San Ace 9G1212H1011 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
1x Scythe Ultra Kaze 3k Windows 8 Pro Dell S2740 27 Inch IPS Das Keyboard 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
NZXT Hale90 1000W Antec P280 Steelseries Sensei Steelseries QCK Mini 
AudioOther
Fiio E9 to Asus Xonar DX (headphone amp AND DAC) Sennheiser HD598 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3770K @ 5GHz 1.43V Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 TB MSI Twinfrozr III 7870 2x4GB Samsung Wonder Ram 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
128GB Crucial M4 1TB Caviar Blue, 640GB Caviar Blue 2x2TB Western Digital Reds coming Prolimatech Megahalems w/ 2x San Ace H1011's pu... 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8 Pro 32 inch Toshiba LCD, 24 inch Dell ST2412L Coolermaster Quickfire Rapid Antec Truepower New 750W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Antec P280 Razer Deathadder 1800dpi frankenstein! just hdmi audio to the tv for now 
  hide details  
Reply
post #28 of 42
piledriver is supposed to be 25% more cpu performance than llano. Vishera will be where its at though! 10 cores of next next gen bulldozer ^^ im guessing q4 2012
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8150 - 4.90 ghz  GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD7 (Rev. 1.1) XFX 6990 + Accelero Twin Turbo 6990 cooler 24/7... 8192 MB - OC 1988 9-9-9-24-1T Team Xtreem 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
240 GB Revodrive 3 X2 Windows 7 SP1 1000 W OCZ ZX series - 80 Gold HAF 932 - Windy Tunnel - 22 Fans 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8150 - 4.90 ghz  GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD7 (Rev. 1.1) XFX 6990 + Accelero Twin Turbo 6990 cooler 24/7... 8192 MB - OC 1988 9-9-9-24-1T Team Xtreem 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
240 GB Revodrive 3 X2 Windows 7 SP1 1000 W OCZ ZX series - 80 Gold HAF 932 - Windy Tunnel - 22 Fans 
  hide details  
Reply
post #29 of 42
The Intel Compiler for Cinebench makes assumptions

SSE2 - May generate Intel® SSE2 and SSE instructions. Optimizes for the Intel® Netburst microarchitecture. <-- SSE2 code from ICC is optimized for Netburst
Quote:
Originally Posted by Intel 
Intel’s compilers may or may not optimize to the same degree for non-Intel microprocessors for
optimizations that are not unique to Intel microprocessors. These optimizations include SSE2,
SSE3, and SSSE3 instruction sets and other optimizations. Intel does not guarantee the
availability, functionality, or effectiveness of any optimization on microprocessors not
manufactured by Intel. Microprocessor-dependent optimizations in this product are intended for
use with Intel microprocessors. Certain optimizations not specific to Intel microarchitecture are
reserved for Intel microprocessors. Please refer to the applicable product User and Reference
Guides for more information regarding the specific instruction sets covered by this notice.

^That is the limit for AMD Processors

AVX - May generate Intel® AVX, SSE4.2, SSE4.1, SSSE3, SSE3, SSE2 and SSE instructions for Intel® processors. Optimizes for 2nd generation Intel® Core™ processors.

^ because of Auto-vectorization Intel processors get to use this but as said in the Intel "Optimization Notice" AMD can use up to SSSE3 not SSE2

SSSE3 - May generate Intel® SSSE3, SSE3, SSE2 and SSE instructions for Intel® processors. Optimizes for Intel® Core™ microarchitecture.

You have to understand that Intel C++ Compiled Application makes false assumptions about AMD CPUs

While in reality Bulldozer with the correct optimizations should perform mostly the same

http://www.spec.org/cpu2006/results/res2011q4/cpu2006-20111121-19030.html
http://www.spec.org/cpu2006/results/res2011q1/cpu2006-20110131-14303.html

Opteron 6238 @ 2.9GHz 115W TDP/ $455 PAI - Cint_Rate2006/ 414 Peak/365 Base
Opteron 6180 SE @ 2.5GHz 140W TDP/$1514 PAI - Cint_Rate2006/ 430 Peak/369 Base

http://www.spec.org/cpu2006/results/res2011q4/cpu2006-20111121-19042.html
http://www.spec.org/cpu2006/results/res2011q1/cpu2006-20110131-14304.html

Opteron 6238 @ 2.9GHz 115W TDP/ $455 PAI - Cfp_Rate2006/ 340 Peak/318 Base
Opteron 6180 SE @ 2.5GHz 140W TDP/$1514 PAI - Cfp_Rate2006/ 335 Peak/308 Base

These were benchmarked with AMD Open64 C++ Compiler there is a new version which supposedly speeds up Bulldozer again as the one used in this benchmark for BD is
v4.2.5.2 while the latest one is v4.5.1
Edited by Seronx - 1/19/12 at 9:43pm
AMD FX ~Seronx
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-9800P Acer Wasp R7 M440 SK Hynix HMA41GS6AFR8N-TF 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
KINGSTON RBU-SNS8152S3128GG2 TOSHIBA MQ01ABD100 HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GUE1N Stock 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Microsoft Windows 10 Home Build 14393 Viewsonic XG2401 24 Hz-144 Hz Ducky Channel Shine 3 Stock 65W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Acer Exoskeleton Steelseries Rival 300 Razer Megasoma AMD-Realtek ALC255 
  hide details  
Reply
AMD FX ~Seronx
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-9800P Acer Wasp R7 M440 SK Hynix HMA41GS6AFR8N-TF 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
KINGSTON RBU-SNS8152S3128GG2 TOSHIBA MQ01ABD100 HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GUE1N Stock 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Microsoft Windows 10 Home Build 14393 Viewsonic XG2401 24 Hz-144 Hz Ducky Channel Shine 3 Stock 65W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Acer Exoskeleton Steelseries Rival 300 Razer Megasoma AMD-Realtek ALC255 
  hide details  
Reply
post #30 of 42
Thread Starter 
Tweaked settings and clocks on the 9950 also pined the thread on single thread bench.

Phenom 9950 @ 3.15 core and 2.3 nb...

4 cores = 3.51
1 core = 0.82
ratio = 4.28x

And the original intention of the thread is not "BD is fail" its more like "AMD marketing is fail".
Sorry if that was not clear.
Edited by KarathKasun - 1/20/12 at 12:53am
μRyzen
(12 items)
 
Mini Box
(4 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen R5 1400 MSI B350M Gaming Pro Zotac GTX 670 4GB G.SKILL FORTIS Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 
Hard DriveCoolingOSOS
WD Green 3tb Wraith Stealth Windows 10 Debian 8.7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerMouse
ViewSonic VX-2257-8 Chinese backlit mechanical Kingwin 850w Chinese laser optical 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 5350 Asus AM1I-A EVGA GTX 750 Ti SC 2x4GB DDR 3 1333 
  hide details  
Reply
μRyzen
(12 items)
 
Mini Box
(4 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen R5 1400 MSI B350M Gaming Pro Zotac GTX 670 4GB G.SKILL FORTIS Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 
Hard DriveCoolingOSOS
WD Green 3tb Wraith Stealth Windows 10 Debian 8.7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerMouse
ViewSonic VX-2257-8 Chinese backlit mechanical Kingwin 850w Chinese laser optical 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 5350 Asus AM1I-A EVGA GTX 750 Ti SC 2x4GB DDR 3 1333 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD CPUs
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › FX-4100 4.6Ghz vs Phenom X4 9950 3.0Ghz in CB 11.5