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post #11 of 29
You could try simply moving both sticks into the other slots, if that makes sense. Like, if you had two blue, and two black RAM slots, and had them both in the blue ones, then move them to the black ones, for example.

Based on what I've heard from the ASUS P45 club here on OCN, we like to keep vNB below 1.4V, and NB temps below 50C. There may also be more than one voltage setting in the BIOS you could play with to try to increase stability. For example, on the P5Q-series, there is a "NB voltage" as well as a "FSB Terimation voltage" that both need to be increased when going for a higher FSB speed. Noted, you're not trying to overclock, but it may help stability to bump these up by 0.02-0.04V or so to see if that improves things.

Still, it may not even be the RAM or the FSB. The reason I think this might be the case is because whenever I have FSB problems I usually get MEMORY_MANAGEMENT, PFN_LIST_CORRUPT, PAGE_FILE or similar errors on my BSODs, even with RAM that checks out 100% okay. Do you have a more complete list of errors? Unfortunately, I have no clue what the errors you posted could mean.

Also, based on a screenshot of HWMonitor of my own system I happen to have posted here on OCN, HWMonitor for me is reporting 11.6V on the 12V rail, so maybe it is a power supply issue? headscratch.gif
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Thanks again for the info. We have now been running 6GB for a while and it seams to be stable. We aren't quite sure what our NB temp is as Hwmonitor does not explicitly state NB on any reading. However the hottest reading after CPU on the motherboard is tmpin0 which hovers around 65C. If this is indeed the NB then its running mighty hot.

Edit: We are going to plug in the last stick and check the tmpin0 reading. And The 65c we got earlier was while running large FFT's.

Edit: Yeah we did have a more error codes but we lost the paper we had them written on redface.gif
Edited by Bit_reaper - 1/18/12 at 2:12pm
    
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So we are running the full 8Gb again. Prime95 is burning away at large FFT's. Our tmpin0 reading is now 79C if that is the North Bridge it is really cooking eek.gif
    
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Step 1: Run Memory diagnostics. Get MemTest and download the bootable DOS ISO and burn it to a CD. Boot from the CD and let it run for a few hours.

Step 2: Find out what Hard Drive manufacturer he has and download the corresponding diagnostics and run those. A clean format and install of Windows is not adequate for testing Hard Drive faults.

With diagnosing any major BSOD issues with any PC, those two steps should be the first. Don't waste time thinking its something obscure until you can rule out the obvious first.
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post #15 of 29
what speed is your ram running at?

I've had friends that for whatever reason got the same

"0x0000003B SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION"

code when he ran his ram @ 1600 (even though that was stock)

when we set it to 1333 in bios (ASUS p8z68-v board)

the BSOD went away
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post #16 of 29
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Interesting. The ram is running on default 800 (its ddr2)

Edit: It's worth noting that the system ran for quite some time without issues and no hardware changes where made in the near history of when the problems started
Edited by Bit_reaper - 1/18/12 at 2:38pm
    
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post #17 of 29
Have you ran Hard Drive diagnostics?

Have you ran Memory Diagnostics?

Have you ran Hard Drive diagnostics?

Have you ran Memory Diagnostics?

Have you ran Hard Drive diagnostics?

Have you ran Memory Diagnostics?


You can ponder about whether its because of the FSB, temperature or bad karma that's causing the BSODs, but only once you've ruled out Hard Drive and Memory.

I've worked in the professional PC repair business now for over 8 years and 90% of hardware faults (one of the main causes of BSODs) are caused by either Hard Drive or RAM. Always make sure you check those out first before you start looking at red herrings.

If they both come out clean, that's awesome and you're a fortunate man.
Edited by tedman - 1/18/12 at 3:05pm
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have you checked device manager for any conflicts with the hardware in the machine. If 2 pieces of hardware are sharing the same IRQ weird things can happen.
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have you checked device manager for any conflicts with the hardware in the machine. If 2 pieces of hardware are sharing the same IRQ weird things can happen.

The 90s are calling, they want their IRQ conflict faults back rolleyes.gif
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So we are running the full 8Gb again. Prime95 is burning away at large FFT's. Our tmpin0 reading is now 79C if that is the North Bridge it is really cooking eek.gif

I would take off the NB heatsink, clean it and reapply some arctic silver 5 or better TIM you have, assemble everything back together and then try to add a 40mm small fan on top to cool it down. Maybe it can solve your BSOD problem. Back then when I have my old E8500 set up, I was running at 443x9.5 = 4208mhz and I had a thermaltake extreme spirit chipset cooler on the NB. 2x1gb stick = low 40s during prime95 large fft and it bump up to mid 50s as soon as I put in 4 sticks of 2gb ram.
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