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post #21 of 29
Hmm, full hard drive diagnostics is something I forgot about, what tedman says is right: a fresh Windows install and reformat can help mask errors, but they will still be there on your drive if they are present.

Also, definitely go for the bootable version of memtest86 (I think its version 4.0a?). I always forget to mention that as well, because I didn't even know there was a Windows version until about a month ago, and I always assumed that's what everyone always used. rolleyes.gif I still have a floppy disk drive in my system for this singular reason. wink.gif

EDIT: Oh, and I did some really fast google searching and it seems like the TMPIN0 is a temp sensor located really close to the CPU socket, so it's very likely that it will be high and/or similar to your CPU core temperature. Is this the case with your buddy? Also, does HWMonitor report any other temps, such as TMPIN1? That one sounds like its closer to the NB.
Edited by jetpak12 - 1/18/12 at 3:12pm
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The comp is running a fresh windows install. We are seriously starting to think that the issue might be an overheating North Bridge as the tmpin0 heat seams to scale according to the amount of ram sticks in use and having 4 sticks makes the NB really hot. So yeah changing the paste on the NB might be worth a try. And as I have some extra fans I can probably find something that we can jerry rig for extra cooling.

Edit: To answer tedman. He has run run numerous HD and memtests thou I'm not entirely clear what versions/software he used. He is however pretty tech savvy so when he said that the HD and memory check out I just took his word for it
Edited by Bit_reaper - 1/18/12 at 3:39pm
    
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Hmm, full hard drive diagnostics is something I forgot about, what tedman says is right: a fresh Windows install and reformat can help mask errors, but they will still be there on your drive if they are present.
Also, definitely go for the bootable version of memtest86 (I think its version 4.0a?). I always forget to mention that as well, because I didn't even know there was a Windows version until about a month ago, and I always assumed that's what everyone always used. rolleyes.gif I still have a floppy disk drive in my system for this singular reason. wink.gif
EDIT: Oh, and I did some really fast google searching and it seems like the TMPIN0 is a temp sensor located really close to the CPU socket, so it's very likely that it will be high and/or similar to your CPU core temperature. Is this the case with your buddy? Also, does HWMonitor report any other temps, such as TMPIN1? That one sounds like its closer to the NB.

Yes there is a TMPIN1 it reads mid 30s. But that sound too cool as my friend said the NB pretty much burnt his finger when he touched it.
We are now running 4 sticks @ a lower speed (667) to see if it makes a difference.
Edited by Bit_reaper - 1/18/12 at 3:40pm
    
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Yeah so as the local time is closing in on 2 am. We decided to call it a night and leave prime95 running overnight to test the 667MHz ram setting. Also for future reference the memtest and HD diagnostics where run form Hiren's BootCD. We will probably be picking this up again tomorrow.
    
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post #25 of 29
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Yes there is a TMPIN1 it reads mid 30s. But that sound too cool as my friend said the NB pretty much burnt his finger when he touched it.
We are now running 4 sticks @ a lower speed (667) to see if it makes a difference.

Well, mid 30C is still about 100F. Another thing to think about is that TMPIN1 may not be right at the NB. I know on the P5Q board that the "SYSTIN" is close to the NB, but not right on top of it.

But whatever you feel is right, I only found a single thread referencing the values, and there was some confusion as to which was which, I'm only trying to come up with a couple ideas, not cause confusion. redface.gif

Good luck on the overnight P95 test! thumb.gif Sometimes it takes a while for errors to pop up, sounds like a good plan to me.
post #26 of 29
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After 16 hours running prime95 the comp is sill up and running so it appears that the system is stable with the 667MHz ram speed. We are now going to put new thermal paste on the north bridge and see if that enables us to run @ the full 800 MHz.
    
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post #27 of 29
I can't really see 800Mhz causing overheating issues.

I have an E8500 system running at 4.0Ghz with 4 x 1GB RAM and the northbridge is fine. It doesn't even have a special heatsink, pretty basic.

You'd be better off making sure the case is cooled properly rather than reseating thermal paste.
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I can't really see 800Mhz causing overheating issues.
I have an E8500 system running at 4.0Ghz with 4 x 1GB RAM and the northbridge is fine. It doesn't even have a special heatsink, pretty basic.
You'd be better off making sure the case is cooled properly rather than reseating thermal paste.

I know right. That's why I didn't even think about it at first. Also its not yet confirmed it might be some thing else like NB degradation so perhaps a small bump in vNB is needed for stability like jetpak12 suggested earlier.
    
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post #29 of 29
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Yup so resetting the NB heat sink did not improve stability however we are now running on increased ram and MCH voltages and it seems very promising.

Edit: Smooth sailing for half a week so I'm calling this solved

Thanks again to everyone smile.gif
Edited by Bit_reaper - 1/24/12 at 4:14pm
    
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